A good lens with a hood versus a cheap lens without

My wife and I went to the Houston Zoo on the 1st (nobody's there on New Year's Day  Grin ).  For the two attached shots we were pretty much right next to each other.  Same light, same sun coming directly at us.  The only difference is that I was using a 70-200 Sigma EX with a hood and she was using a cheaper Canon 75-300 without a hood.  Mine is the first shot and hers is the second.  Other than cropping I didn't do anything else to either image.
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She took her shot 4 minutes later?

People don't believe me when I say to stand out of the sun if at all possible and shade the lens otherwise.
Looks like you've got proof.
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Ryan, although lens flare can cause a dramatic loss of overall contrast and the lens hood can make a big difference in many situations; in this case your wife's photo was shot at f/7.1 while your's was shot at f/4.5.  They have the same shutter speed and ISO, so the exposure is quite different in these two images which could be the bigger factor in the difference in the initial quality of the images.  Also, the second one was at a 300mm focal length and because of potential loss at the extreme end of any lens (much less one of lesser value) could also contribute to this phenomenon.

I don't mean to make your point invalid, but in my opinion this set of images does not prove the ability of the lens hood to make a major difference in the quality of an image.

Travis
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I won't argue because you're point is very valid.  Two catches though.  1 - Both lenses were at the long end.  Mine was at 200, hers at 300.  2 - There are about 30 images of this tiger and it's easy to pick out which are which.  I'll go back and look at exposure too though because I'm sure that makes a difference as well.
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Yep, watch out for off brand cheap lenses, cause, the Canon cheap lens sure kicked butt. :=)
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It's hard to compare with different settings and since they are different cameras.  I know the make and model are the same, but they are still different cameras.  My husband and I both shoot with the exact same type of camera sometimes, and I swear one handles noise better than the other. 
The hood is probably the biggest factor here.  I would say get a hood for yours.  I have shaded my lens with my hand before in a pinch.
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OK . . . So, why the different exposures?  What else is going on here?

Travis,

Light loss at the extreme end of the focal length range shouldn't make any difference in overall exposure because the metering is done through the lens . . .

Ed
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If you look at the image it isn't dark, per se.  It's hazy, and lacks contrast.  This leads me to believe the image would have been improved with a hood to block light going across the glass.
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Yes, you all have validity in your comments.  My point wasn't that the hood couldn't have been the primary issue, but that it wasn't a super example because there are a couple other factors that could influence it.  I stand by what I have said.  The hood (or lack thereof) can certainly cause this issue.  The focal length being 300MM on a cheaper lens and 200MM on a better lens could be an influence, and yes there is a loss of contrast and saturation whenever your exposure isn't spot on (even if it's slight).  We tend to fix this on our own when PP and/or printing.  Also, although the metering is through-the-lens; because the lens is not as high of quality as its comparison, there is a chance that the mechanism used to close the aperture is inaccurate; f/4.5 at 300MM and f/4.5 at 200MM is not the same size opening (regardless of the camera's reading), which means that the lens mechanism could have flaws in its calibration throughout the zoom range and therefore be less accurate at any given length along its zoom.  This may also not be a big factor because I can't imagine Canon selling products this poor in today's market, but the point still exists.

Do I think a hood could have helped?  Of course I do.  I only wanted to point out that this may not be the best example because of the other factors.  If this were a scientific comparison, it wouldn't hold up at all.  If we were to get camera or lens reviews based on this many variants, we wouldn't have any idea what we were really comparing, and therefore couldn't make informed purchasing decisions.

I just like to complicate things.  Can you tell?

Travis
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I would still like to know where the exposure difference came in here.  That's a pretty sizable difference and even if these were both captured in RAW, it will have an effect on image quality.

Ed
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