Black and White

I think this is a portrait Smiley
I am on a black and white kick...
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I don't like the straps or jewelry but I'm probably the only one. Love the photo.

black and white is a good choice, her skin is silky.
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I see this image of being duo tone. Or a toned B/W which leans on the green side. Is this the effect you were wanting? Or are you looking for a true B/W.?
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Mike, right, it's not b&w, true b&w looks blue and cold to me on skin.  I am not seeing green though...  on my screen it's warm.  I added red and yellow.
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k... the image looks slightly different here on the web than when opened in PS on my screen...  it does look greener here... weird.  Well, just pretend it's warm Smiley
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Interesting you find B/W blue and cold, hmm, mine are on the cream side.   Big Grin
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It really depends on how the conversion is done.  But, I should point out that back when we shot B&W film and made prints to get B&W images, every paper/developer combination had its own look.  There cream based papers and warm tone papers and cold tone papers.  There warm developers and cold developers even developers with chicken-pox.  Oh, wait a minute . . . that was kids with chicken-pox . . .

You had a load of different toners.  Gold, selenium, brown, sepia, etc, that changed the look of the paper and developer combination.  That's before you start getting into gum printing, cyanotype, talbotype, platinum, palladium, bromiol and so on and on and on . . .

When you switch to offset or intalio(sp?) printing you get to duo- and tri-tone printing.

My point, I guess, is that B&W has never been just B&W. 
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Ed Farmer
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Ed that's interesting.  Does paper effect printing with digital?  My lab doesn't offer different paper besides glossy and matte.  Is this like the most childish question every?  Sorry, I really just don't know.
I know when I get my b&w prints back they look great to me, if they are of a building or something, but for people I like it more warm.

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I've had some bargain basement photo paper that was kind of bluish and it made my whites blue toned, so it's not a silly question. Smiley Just look at what metallic paper does to a photo! Smiley
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If you print at home there's a tons of different paper and ink combinations. Some you can get ready made paper profiles for from the manufacturer. Some you need to send off and have a custom profile made for them.
I usually use Red River Paper's Premium Polar Satin with Epson's stock ink on an R1800. It's a warm tone paper and I use it for almost everything; color and B&W. The best B&W printing I've seen used a third party ink on a dedicated printer that replaced the color cartridges with different shades of grey. It also uses a tank system instead of the usual cartridges. These systems are kind of pricey so only some hardcore B&W people use them. The results are fantastic though.
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-John
Sarcasm, frustrating the clueless since 3000 b.c.

Susie,

Your B&W prints are just color prints.  They are printed on the same paper as your color prints, you have just selected a simpler pallet of colors.

I was talking about B&W film printed in a wet darkroom on B&W paper. 

Ed
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Ed Farmer
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Epson 4000 prints on the magenta end when it comes to B/W
Epson 4800 prints B/W to die for, excellent tonal values.
Costco, B/W are o.k. but not that great, enough to get by.

Yes, the printers do have an effect on B/W printing.
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Your B&W prints are just color prints.  They are printed on the same paper as your color prints, you have just selected a simpler pallet of colors.

Well yeah, makes sense.
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Epson 4800 prints B/W to die for, excellent tonal values.

I love my 4800. Smiley
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I'm drooling Marian
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