Computer part help

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We are long overdue for getting a new computer.  So we are shopping.  I can't get one just yet, so we are in research mode.
We are getting a PC.  Yes, I know, Mac rocks, but spare me, I need to be able to network my other computers and I don't want to re-buy all my software.

Do you guys have any recommendations about video cards and RAM?  These are the things in my current computer that need updated the most.
Whenever I talk to computer people they always say "If you aren't doing hard core gaming you don't need the best video card or tons of RAM".  However, I swear some of the tools in PS are pretty intense in the graphic sense.

Also, operating systems, any preferences for a certain reason?
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Get as much ram as you can, 4gig, video cards, high in ram also.
A new computer, Dual Cores 2htz or higher.

Working with a photo editor, you need speed, not lag. You will also need to create a scratch disc for the photo editor to work in.
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You can get a mac and still run MS stuff inside it.
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You can get a mac and still run MS stuff inside it.

Honestly I have a lot of really lame reasons for just sticking with PC, the main one is that I know how to use one Smiley  I don't have the time or patience to learn something new no matter how simple.  I have too much on my plate (make that a paper plate, please, less dishes to wash, thank you very much).

Mike, I have an AMD in my desktop and an Intel in my laptop, it seems that they leapfrog back and forth between which one has the most up-to-date Neat-O model available.  Regardless, I guess I will do fine with the latest of whichever is available then, right?

RAM is cheap, btw, memory in general is dirt cheap.  We have gone through 5 computers (including laptops) during the course of our marriage and each new one we get we are so amazed at the amount of memory it has - then we quickly fill it up Smiley  And that's WITHOUT storing all the wedding photos on them, those go on external drives.
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I'm go with the get as much as you can afford idea.  Photo editing and gaming are going to be fairly similar in requirements.  Lots of RAM, big and fast hard drives, lots of video memory.  The only thing I can think of that gaming rigs need but photo editing computers don't is 3d graphics. 

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You will also need to create a scratch disc for the photo editor to work in.

*perks up ears* Explain, please!
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The only thing I can think of that gaming rigs need but photo editing computers don't is 3d graphics. 

Good point. 

Right now we are leaning toward buying parts and having it built.  The only thing is that then there is no service and parts warranty, which I found to be important over the years.  I don't know a lot about hardware, neither does my husband.  We have used warranties before.
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You will also need to create a scratch disc for the photo editor to work in.

*perks up ears* Explain, please!

When PS runs out of memory it starts using a scratch disk.  Most computers only have one drive so the scratch disk, photoshop, your images, and any applications are all on the same physical disk. 

If you have a separate disk as your scratch disk then it should be a little faster. 

Don't know where you are looking but buy.com is usually the first place I look if I'm ordering online. 
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Microsoft seems to be friendlier with Intel. Same speed chips tend to run a little better (could be me but I've used a lot of both)

You do not want Vista, even if it costs more to get XP

Not having to buy a thousand dollars worth of software is reason enough for not switching from PC. My XX camera is not as good as your YY camera but I've got so much invested in glass I can't change.

same song.

the hottest chip on the market 18 months ago is what you should buy best bang for your buck.
2-4 gigs of RAM
2 hard drives are way better than one really big hard drive.
get 2 200-300gig 7200s and put your windows and PS swap files on the second and use it for documents and movies and stuff.

Like I said before, XP not Vista.
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The hard drive can also be partitioned, say into 3, one of the three can become the scratch disc.
I have an external hard drive, partitioned into three, one for the operating system, another for time machine and the other for Adobe Photoshop.

I do need more ram, I'm only running on 1 gig ram, love to have two more.

AMD, Pentium, all a preference/opinion, both do a really good job. Just go as big as you can, "More Power"    Big Grin
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The hard drive can also be partitioned, say into 3, one of the three can become the scratch disc.
I have an external hard drive, partitioned into three, one for the operating system, another for time machine and the other for Adobe Photoshop.

I do need more ram, I'm only running on 1 gig ram, love to have two more.

AMD, Pentium, all a preference/opinion, both do a really good job. Just go as big as you can, "More Power"    Big Grin

DO NOT PARTITION your hard drive. there is no point.
putting the swap on another disk is to improve seek/write time. If the disk is partitioned its still one drive with one head arm.

in the past week I've built three Intel boxes and 2 AMD boxes. The AMD's require special mainboard drivers so they will work better with windows. The intel boards don't need "windows" drivers.

[shrug]


Did I say don't buy Vista??
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The hard drive can also be partitioned, say into 3, one of the three can become the scratch disc.
That's not really any faster than keeping it on one partition.  The heads still have to move back and forth between the partitions and the bus can only move so much data.  On the up side it's easier that way to reformat the scratch partition to keep it from getting fragmented.  

And what follows is what I've gathered from reading on the topic. It may be wildly inaccurate, but it matches what I've read.

An external drive is a poor choice for a scratch disk unless it's eSATA.  USB drives are slower than internal ATA and use more CPU cycles to move data.  I would imagine firewire sits somewhere in between, but I can't seem to find much that compares all 3.

edit... - Looks like Bob beat me to it.
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Vista, LOL.  My husband and I discussed that the other day because honestly all I know about Vista is what I see/hear on the insanely ingenious Mac commercials (those commercials rock). 

I heard everything will eventually need Vista to run in the future though... then I will have to buy it anyway... Any opinions on that???
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I've got Vista on my notebook and XP on my desktop (and Ubuntu on my file server Cheesy Grin ).  I turned off most of the fancy eye candy type stuff and it seems to run ok.  I'm sure there are some technical reasons why people don't like it, but I think a lot of it's hype too.  To me it's just an operating system.
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Unfortunately, there are some older programs that will not run on Vista, which is why so many people complain about it. Smiley
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