Crushed

My stepson is visiting and I showed him the Knight photo I had taken (the one with the texture overlay) and his reaction was "what is it." Now I'm all depressed and verklempt (don't know how to spell that...it's a word the Jewish ladies I worked with in NY always said when they were upset). It's amazing, as old as I am, that a simple comment like that could crush me so easily. I guess it takes me back to earlier in my life.

When I was in high school, my parents never supported my artwork. When I graduated high school, they said, "we'll pay for your college as long as you don't study art." When I married my first husband, he'd make comments like "you're not going to hang that in here, are you?" When we opened up the art gallery, we didn't even get a congrats for the grand opening.

Are you easily crushed by words outside of forum life (which we all know can be easier to misinterpret)?
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Marian, I am sorry.  Are you talking about the one that's in the featured gallery here?  If that's the case then you know we like it Smiley

I am more likely to worry about what people here think, because I consider everyone here experts, but honestly I need it, my friends, family and clients all think I rock (they are clueless). 

But yeah, sometimes it hurts.  I don't think there has been one person on this forum that hasn't been hurt or upset by something at least once.

With your situation Marian you need to develop an attitude that you are going to succede in spite of everything.  Your son probably innocently said what he did.  I was reading a parenting article (long before I was even married, ironically) and it was talking about this exact same thing.  It said that when your children first start to draw that their artwork won't look like much to you, but to them it represents something.  When they show it to you then you are supposed to say "wow, that's great, tell me about it" instead of "nice, what is it?".  And yes, us adults need the same careful treatment sometimes.  Smiley

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Marian, I've seen you do amazing work! I wish I could get some of the things you do, and then you have this amazing talent of making them even more amazing with editing. I am constantly impressed by your work.

I'm more likely to be crushed by people who I know are good (and for the same reasons, I am also more complimented by those with more experience) than I would be by people who I think would just like (or hate) everything that I do without knowing why they think so. If that makes sense.
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Based on where his head is at, interested in Norse fighters, why would you think he would like it? an English knight covered in texture of an old tree? (If you remember I didn't like it either)

Did you show him any of your ideas for the photo shoot? I would expect him to love those.  But then again, his age is hard to figure out and you know if everyone likes something, no matter what it is, a bunch of them are lying.

I see one of my prints hanging in a gallery next to the most godawful flower photo in the world, too much saturation the color is off just terrible. Then I'm in there one day and a lady walks by my photo and stands and raves about that stupid flower for a few minutes, didn't buy it (that would have hurt). Later I get an email from a lady wanting to know about unframed copy of my print, she loves it just can't afford that much for it. Some you win some you don't

It still hurts when family doesn't agree with your passion. But you've got to remember even Jesus' family didn't like his being a preacher. So if the most influential person to ever live had problems convincing his family his chosen vocation was the right one the rest of us don't have much of a chance..

My uncle recently showed some photos they had had taken. My mom asked why he hadn't asked me. His reply was "We wanted professional photos"

*hugs*
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"I get up every morning determined to both change the world and have one heck of a good time. Sometimes this makes planning my day difficult. "- EB White

Chattanooga Photographer www.BobEdens.com

A lot of friends and family tried to get me to persue art when I was younger. I though it was just a passing fancy and I knew what I wanted to do.

Now I'm old enough to realize that I didn't know a dang thing when I was young, and most people that young don't know anything either. Chuckle and shake your head patronizingly and tell them one day they'll understand.

Fortunately I'm still young enough to think that I know a few things now.
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-John
Sarcasm, frustrating the clueless since 3000 b.c.


My uncle recently showed some photos they had had taken. My mom asked why he hadn't asked me. His reply was "We wanted professional photos"

*hugs*

Fantastic!!
Family is great!
Now you know why you get to actually choose your friends.

Everyone close to me thinks Im a better photographer than I do.
Want to open up my can of worms? 
Can you say confidence issues?!

Marian, that knight photo is cool. Few people will like it. Honestly, I dont 'like' it. But I seriously appreciate that artistry involved in creating it, and I think its cool.

Corey
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Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes.

Oscar Wilde

You'll have the last laugh as your stuff will be selling for millions after you pass away and he will be saying "Dammit, I should have modeled and gotten royalties for the use of my image."

It's all a matter of perspective really.

I think everyone suffers from confidence issues it's just a matter if you let them bother you.  I was like that until I meet my wife, now it is total opposite.  She laughs and says "he used to be really introverted and would never talk to anyone, now he knows more people than I do and will go talk to anyone."
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Bob, consider youself lucky.  I hate doing work for family.  I am usually underpaid and underappreciated.  At least with my husband's family.  They are photographers as well, so they can always do it better, yet they don't bother trying...
Talk about a can of worms Smiley

Marian, I hope you are feeling better, it's been another day.  I usually feel better the next day.
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I did a bridal portrait a few years ago that I loved.  I bought a 20x24 to hang in my sales area (also known as the dining room.)  When my parents came over for Thanksgiving, my father said, "She look dead."  I was crushed!

However, that print bookded me a lot of weddings.  Made me a lot of money.  I am much less crushed now.

But, there is a lesson to be learned here.  We have to remember not to shoot just for ourselves and other photographers.  Many members of the public are not going to get a lot of what we do.  In many cases, they are going to love it when we do it to photographs of them, but think that it is "too much" or "over done" when they see images of others.

Ed
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Ed Farmer
Mount Laurel, New Jersey

www.edfarmerphotography.com
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I did a bridal portrait a few years ago that I loved.  I bought a 20x24 to hang in my sales area (also known as the dining room.)  When my parents came over for Thanksgiving, my father said, "She look dead."  I was crushed!

OMG, ouch!!!!  Cry
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I had a discussion about this sorta thing with my MUA the other day.  We were talking about how little personal comments can really affect our self esteem.  Her husband told her she had funny knees and now she doesn't like to show them but she has great legs.  It goes to show we REALLY need to watch what we say to others.  What seems off-handed to us can crush someone else.  This is a good lesson we all need to remember once in awhile and also not to take things personally either.
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After 26 years in this business I have come to the following conclusions:

One person may see something as a beautiful work of art, another may see it as worthless trash! 

Artists must have thick skin.

Listen to the experts, disregard the idiots.

After you evaluate another's work, ALWAYS say to yourself, "on the other hand....."

Benji
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Artists must have thick skin.

That's what they told me when I started in the medical field. I told them, "when I develop a thick skin, that's the time I quit." To me, an artist is the most sensitive being on the planet. We detect nuances in the world that others can't. We gather emotion and make it into art.

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After you evaluate another's work, ALWAYS say to yourself, "on the other hand....."

Haha...I like that! Smiley
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