Good deal, or not?

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I've always been a continuous light gal, but would love to branch out to flash uses. Is this a good deal:
http://www.gadgetinfinity.com/product.php?productid=16742&cat=256&page=1

 Huh?  Huh?  Huh?
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pocket strobes are great for outdoors and when a bunch of equipment is out of the question. But shooting in a studio and having to change batteries every 40-50 shots will drive you nuts.

It doesn't look like the flashes themselves are adjustable (power wise) for what you're doing you only really need a soft box along with your hot light as main. (the hot light will make the subjects pupil smaller and therefore the eye more attractive)

The one I have is a low end light by a middle ground company with a good reputation.
the link is here
seems like they were around $250


JTL Versalight kit
Code: 92201 DL-320 Basic Kit
Contents:
Code Description Qty
1104 Versalight J-160 Unit 2
5011 600 Light Stand 2
4011 33" White Umbrella  1
4021 36" Silver Umbrella 1
8226 Studio Carrying Bag 1
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http://www.gadgetinfinity.com/search.php?mode=search

If you are wanting to use flash, that's the gadget to get, just add your own flashes.

www.strobist.com

Another site to checkout on lighting using on camera flashes.
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Marian,

I don't think that is a bad deal, but I don't think that it is a very good one either.  I don't know anything about the radio system that is included.  Is it even a radio?  Is it an IR unit?  Will it work in bright sunlight?  Around corners?  I have no idea.  You can likely find out by doing some more research, but do you want to buy into this system?  Or, do you want to get into a system that can grow with you down the road?

All of the same issues can be brought up around the flashes that are included here.

What kind of camera system are you using?  Do you have any flash gear now?  How are you using it?  What do you hope to gain by going with a flash system over continuous light?

Maybe you can buy this system and do everything that you want.  Maybe you can buy this system and it will sit in a box next year while you try to figure out the next system that you buy.  I don't recommend anyone just going out and spending money.  Spend your money on things that you know are going to help your photography.  Not just because you think that the next "gadget" will work out for you.

Ed
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What kind of camera system are you using?  Do you have any flash gear now?  How are you using it?  What do you hope to gain by going with a flash system over continuous light?

I am using a Minolta 7D DSLR. Right now, for all my portrait work, I am using 2 continuous cool flourescent lights with white umbrellas. I also have a reflector (reversible to black, white, silver, and gold). I don't use any flash, nor have I *ever* used flash, so I know squat about it. Tongue I do child photography, and am finding the continuous lighting not strong enough without having to up my ISO to 1600 to be able to get sharp photos. It's driving me nuts. I bought a cheap lighting setup (on the recommendation of someone I shouldn't have listened to) but it's all I have. Here's what I bought: Link Sad Part of me just wants someone to come in and say, "here is what you need to do" because it's stressing me so much. Tongue I have already done 15 portrait sittings, and the parents love my work, but I am having to do a TON of post processing as a result to get rid of that darn 1600 ISO noise. Kids move around so much that it's hard to light them in a studio with what I have. Any recommendations would be really welcomed. Smiley

(You can tell when I'm nervous by the number of smileys in my posts... Wink )
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Well then, what you really want is this - www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/200411-REG/Dyna_Lite__500_W_S_B_H_2.html.  But, there is a learning curve. 

The flashes that you are looking at in this post, may not throw much more light than what you already have.  Also, the lack of modeling lights means that you will not be able to see what you are getting through the viewfinder.  You can also go with better (more expensive) flourescents than you have (Westcott Spyders) for example.  You can also, try switching you current systme to softboxes (Westcott Apollos) instead of umbrellas.

I don't want to see you spend a lot of money on something that you don't need or waste a little money on something else that won't work for you. 

Ed

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How far are your lights from the subject.?

I'm also wondering why such a high ISO? What speed are you using?

For a Diagnostic, could you post a couple samples, include ISO, speed and aperture and how far lights were from subject.
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ya think a 500ws portable set for a small studio might be a bit OVERKILL?
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ya think a 500ws portable set for a small studio might be a bit OVERKILL?

Are you asking me? I have no clue. Tongue

How far are your lights from the subject.? I'm also wondering why such a high ISO? What speed are you using?

I'm about 5 feet from my subjects. The high ISO is because the kids move all the time, they don't "pose" like adults do, so I need a faster shutter speed with these lights. Tongue

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For a Diagnostic, could you post a couple samples, include ISO, speed and aperture and how far lights were from subject.

Sure! When I get home I'll pull something up and post it. Smiley
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No, how far are the lights from the subject. :=)

You need to use some kind of tactic to have the kids do what you would like.
My photographer friend who shoots kids day in and day out has the kids co-opporate.
She uses toys to get their attention, plays a bit of catch etc. After the session, she gives them treats.
I know, I did my placement with her. I was impressed by the amount of patience and effort and work to get the shots.
Getting down on the knees, going back and forth from child to camera, yep, it takes someone who loves this side of photography.
Not me, sorry, I don't have the patience, however, WHAT an EYE OPENER.!!! Kudos to you. :=)

O, she shoots at 100 ISO @ F8. Images are tack sharp. Camera is always on the tripod. :=)
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No, how far are the lights from the subject. :=)

Oops. About 4-5 feet away. The only times I've had really sharp photos is when I put the light really close, like 2 feet away. Tongue It freaks some kids out, though.

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You need to use some kind of tactic to have the kids do what you would like.

We talk about Spongebob, superheroes, and their dog's latest bowel movement (he suggested the last one, not me, but it made for some laughs...his mom almost died when he brought it up, LOL). Grin

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Getting down on the knees, going back and forth from child to camera, yep, it takes someone who loves this side of photography.

Hahhahaha...yeah, thigh muscles are REALLY important when shooting kids!

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Not me, sorry, I don't have the patience, however, WHAT an EYE OPENER.!!! Kudos to you. :=)

Thanks. Smiley

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O, she shoots at 100 ISO @ F8. Images are tack sharp. Camera is always on the tripod. :=)

I think that's part of my problem, I'm always taking the camera OFF of the tripod to get a better angle.
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I think that's part of my problem, I'm always taking the camera OFF of the tripod to get a better angle.

You should have a fast enough shutter speed with studio lights to be able to hand hold your camera... 1600 ISO is way way way higher than I normally use for ANY shot.  Maybe for a dark wedding where I don't want flash.... maybe.

I don't have studio lights, but I know Travis uses 200-400 ISO.  400 is a little noisy for my tastes...
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I use 100 ISO all the time, 125- 250 @ F8 depends on my lighting condition. Hand held and on Tripod, depends on what lens I use. But, prefer the tripod.

:=)
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Okay, let's try this again. Everytime I try to send it tells me "you've already sent this message" but I don't see it. Tongue

2 continuous lights. Each at 45 degrees. The one to her left is about 3 feet above head level and about 4 feet away from her, the one to her right is about head level and about 5 feet away, if I remember correctly. EXIF in Photoshop brings up some values as blank.
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White balance tweaked in CS2 by using Color balance, yellow and red on mid and high.

Catch light in eyes, tells me you need to raise the main.
The best side is the HER right, or what we are viewing, the left.

For now, use what you have and work up to strobes.

You may need to bring the lights closer. Umbrellas? Softboxes? do you have them.?

You did well ridding the noise, cute shot.

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