Before and After

Here's a before and after, see what happens when lighting is not used properly, ouch.   Big Grin


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Can you explain a litte more?
The lighting looks okay in the first, I mean, it's not perfect, but it's nice and soft. 
« Last Edit: September 25, 2008, 11:11:46 AM by Ginnypenny »
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The way I had her position, the skin pores are screaming out, so, time in photoshop to play and do some skin work. Hey, if others can do it, why not me eh?

Duplicated layer, applied a surface blur with sandstone texture, layer masked, Invert, then brushed in the "New" skin. Just enough to cover the flaws and yet retaining hers as well. This process sometimes is overdone as I have seen on places like model mayhem, careful not to over do it.
As Ed Shapiro mentioned way back, proper lighting can soften the skin. In this one, I goofed badly.

I've done this process for a make over portrait of a bride.

Then, applied Mike's Special Sauce.   Big Grin
« Last Edit: September 25, 2008, 11:38:08 AM by Mike Hodgson »
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Ok, so you could achieve photo #2 results if only you would have lit properly?
Would love to see a diagram of the current lighting situation, and how it could have been changed to make it "fix" the pores.  (Very excited to learn since I can only get that smooth look with post processing....) 
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By using a reflector, I could have bounced soft light on the subject, there by filling the pores with light. I have one, my laziness, I decided not to bring it. 
I would rather use "Natural" lighting first before using dedicated flashes.
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Mike is making some good points about lighting, but I just want to point out that realistically different lighting isn't going to make the image look as great as his photoshopped version.
It will help though.

Think about a golf ball.  It is round and has a pitted surface.  In a dark room if you take a flashlight and light the ball from the side the shadows will throw the pits into a sharp relief.  They will be obvious.  However if you add another light at a different angle it is going to reduce the shadows and make the ball look smoother.  Lighting it completely from the front or using flat lighting will make the pits in the front almost disappear.  This is called "glamour lighting" and is used on women for this purpose. 

I hope that analogy helps.  And for the record I like to glamour light my subjects in boudoir photography, but I almost always touch up the skin anyway.  I, like Mike, don't like a plastic look, so I am light handed.
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Mike, you have any links to that technique? I like the results a lot...
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Thanks, sorry, no, I don't.
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When you are doing the PP on the skin do you normally do all of it or do you do the problematic areas keeping in mind the transitions need to be smooth?
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If I'm applying a make over, I do all.
Some only need minor, such as healing/spot removal, or, a bad make up job under the eyes which I often come across.

"Keeping in mind the transitions need to be smooth"  explanation please.   Smiley
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I was meaning the opacity/flow of the work brush to non worked areas.  Obviously you don't want a definate line distinguish that there had been work done.

You answered it.

I questioned it because I don't have any experience in this and I was playing on Friday trying to learn it.  When I was working it looked good to work the face but the palette above the chest looked better not worked.  I didn't know if I should leave it that way or not.

One thing I did learn was the attention to details is a must, and that involves time.
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Opacity is around 24-35 pressure when working in removal or brushing/toning back. Keeping in mind the lightness or normal using the clone tool then healing to bring in texture.

The make over is done at 100% then there is a reduction in opacity, when I am happy with what was done, I click luminosity. I then flatten image, duplicate, and do Mike's Special Sauce to finish it off.
 
 Cheesy
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