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Ok new here and new to (serious) people photography.  I have been shooting for years and have sold landscape and wildlife pictures.  I am moving into the realm of people now and would like some advice.  My next scheduled shoot is going to be an evening shoot near and east flowing creek.  The equipment I have are lens to cover focal lengths from 18-200mm and reflectors in silver, gold, white, translucent and black.  Any tips on how to light this? or poses that would be good?  Susie has made me aware not to amputate her limbs etc.  Suggestions on wardrobe?

Thanks

Robert
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If you always do what you have always done, you will always get what you have always got.

Well, what kind of photography are you wanting to do?  What is the goal of your shoot?  Are you shooting a model or someone who is paying you?
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I always love when somebody answers a question with a question.  Big Grin  She is a model but a long time friend, so we are helping each other out as I need experience and she needs outdoors pictures for her portfolio.  What kind of photography? Good question.  I think I just want to make her look the best possible.  I really have no set style yet.  I was thinking some shots on the bank and some in the water.  I know there will be challenges to that.  Would a polarizer be good for the in water shots?  Never used one on people before.
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If you always do what you have always done, you will always get what you have always got.

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I always love when somebody answers a question with a question.
We tend to do that a lot here Cheesy Grin
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 Welcome to PAF

Its nice to have new people jump in and mix it up here!
So, will you be trying to make her look her best as a fashion shoot or a candid natural shoot, or head shots, or.....?

Mike will chime in eventually. I can think of a few photos he has posted here that fit what you are describing. 

Remember we want to see some of them after the shoot!!   Big Grin


Corey
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Another question, haha: When you say "evening shoot", what time are you talking about?

With the 18-200mm lens, be careful not to delve too much into the 18mm range when doing a head shot. I've been guilty of doing it myself and, let me tell you, it's not kind to noses! Grin
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Probably around 4:00 pm and sorry about the misconception I meant I have range from 18mm to 200mm in 4 different lenses.

Good question Corey, I am thinking more of a natural shoot,  I always do head shots, don't ask why cause I don't know, I just do.
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If you always do what you have always done, you will always get what you have always got.

I think the first thing you need to do is have a clear goal in mind of what it is you're going for when you get there. "We're going to shoot _______." No matter what it is you should be making her look her best. That's a concern that needs to be raised later in the process.

So what are you going to do? Swimsuit, lifestyle, formal portrait, candid, woman in nature, woman au' natural...etc? Figure that out first. Set an easy simple goal.

Lighting. First you have the sun, and then you have a way to reflect it. If you have a flash I'll bet you only use it on camera; don't. Stick with a reflector for now. Make sure you have someone to hold the reflector. Study the light. Give her eyes a break every few shots from the reflector too, they can be a killer in bright light.

Look at her face and body shape and think about what angles look good for her, and what you don't want to stand out. People really do have a good side for photographs.
Look for sticks, telephone poles, and other things in your background that will seem to grow out of peoples heads in a photograph.

Have her bring a bunch of wardrobe that goes toward your goal. Pick a small amount of it carefully. Avoid big bold patterns unless your selling them. All black and all white clothing can be a little harder to expose for so find something in between.

Have fun and enjoy the process. But don't forget that everything in the frame is your responsibility, including what the model does.
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-John
Sarcasm, frustrating the clueless since 3000 b.c.
"There is no Un-Suck filter" David duChemin

Check out the new blog. http://www.jklebphoto.wordpress.com

I know we can say a lot on this, however, John kept it simplified and well written, so, to that note, read it over and over and put into practice what is said.

Know your lighting, such as broad, butterfly, loop, modified loop etc. etc. because you need to see this as well outside.

Post results and we can guide you and help you with ideas and tips and suggestions etc.

Mike
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Thanks all
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If you always do what you have always done, you will always get what you have always got.

I know we can say a lot on this, however, John kept it simplified and well written, so, to that note, read it over and over and put into practice what is said.

Know your lighting, such as broad, butterfly, loop, modified loop etc. etc. because you need to see this as well outside.

Post results and we can guide you and help you with ideas and tips and suggestions etc.

Mike

I'm kinda flattered.
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-John
Sarcasm, frustrating the clueless since 3000 b.c.
"There is no Un-Suck filter" David duChemin

Check out the new blog. http://www.jklebphoto.wordpress.com

It's a trick to get lighting patterns like butterfly, loop and modified loop with natural light.  I am NOT saying it can't be done.  I would focus right now on knowing the difference between short and broad lighting and focusing on getting lots of light in her eyes.  If you are in open shade, which you will be for part of the shoot as the sun sets I would find your main light (I use a business card folded in half if it's not easy to see) and turn her toward the main light and use the reflector to bounce light up into her eyes.

Watch your backgrounds, I like to keep them simple, unless the scenery is part of the story (like a wedding chapel in the background, or a beautiful landscape with the person as part of it usually smaller in the image).  Use that 200mm a lot.  Step back and zoom in, this will blur your background and put your model in focus which has a lot of impact.
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most everything has been covered... that is an important point. 'COVERED'
I don't know where you are so wardrobe kinda needs to "fit" if its less than 70 degrees have her wear a nice SOLID long sleve top and jeans or a comfortable, not too short skirt.

If you're down south shorts, a bikini top and a man's tailored long sleeve shirt will give you endless possibilities (if the shirt belongs to her man, the photos will have more meaning to her)

the big trick is expose for the background and put enough light on the girl too.
(you can twist the reflector and "Feather" the light to keep from blinding her.)

have fun, pay attention to her feet (don't cut them off like I do) [grin]
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Between two evils, I always pick the one I never tried before. -- Mae West

Chattanooga Portrait Photographer BobEdens.com

Robert, there's no trick when it comes to SEEING what the light does on faces etc.
It's a matter of positioning either yourself and or model/person/subject and using reflectors etc.

I'm an outdoor photographer, maybe it's easier for me to see it and others who work outside a lot, it comes with practice.


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Robert, there's no trick when it comes to SEEING what the light does on faces etc.
It's a matter of positioning either yourself and or model/person/subject and using reflectors etc.

I'm an outdoor photographer, maybe it's easier for me to see it and others who work outside a lot, it comes with practice.




Of course, I know what you are saying Mike.  Maybe "trick" wasn't the right word.  It's just that in my studio I know where to place the light to get a specific lighting pattern, my light is moveable, I can pose my model and then move my light.  Outdoors the perfect lighting pattern may only be made if your model is standing in front of the ugliest part of the park (or where ever you are), unless you know how to manipulate light with a reflector or an off camera flash...  It's just trickier in the sense that you can't move the sun, you have to move yourself, your model, or a reflector.  You can end up a little more limited, but, of course, if you know your stuff you can make it work.  I just wanted to give a place to start, learning broad vs. short lighting and lighting the eyes.  Once you learn to "see" light it's easier to build on your skills and work on specific light patterns based on the models features, the look you are going for and what is available to you.

 Big Grin  lol, sorry for writing a novel there.
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