A recent martial arts event

My son is doing some marital arts now and at one of the events recently, the instructors got to show off some of their skills.
This is in a basketball gym with typical lighting for that situation. I was far away, this is what I came up with.

As for learning....I would like to understand how to be more deliberate with my subject and composition in this type of situation. Can you guys help me with how to 'flatten out' the background in these settings?

Thanks

Corey
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Faster shutter speed, narrower depth of field. Smiley Also, a telephoto lens! You said you were far away, but your focal length is 55mm. Is this a crop?
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Couple speedlights on your subject and drop your ambient with your shutter by two stops.


(it sounds so easy doesn't it?)
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-John
Sarcasm, frustrating the clueless since 3000 b.c.
"There is no Un-Suck filter" David duChemin

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Oh so its easy and no big deal!
 Huh?
 Flash
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Yes it is a crop.
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Can you get closer? 
I am not experienced with this, but if you could open up a little more (lower f stop) it would let in more light (gyms are dark) and blur your background.
I think for what you had to work with it turned out quite well. You just aren't going to end up with something that looks like a still from an action movie in a HS gym.
If I were you I would get him in his uniform (outfit? whatever)outside and have him do some stuff while you use a fast shutter to freeze the action. I am picturing a wooded area, sorta Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon-esque. Or in an industrial/grungy area (but be careful with those bare feet!!!)
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My guess is that the lens that you were using was wide open at f4.5.  This kind of limits what you can do to stop action and blur backgrounds.  You are into one situation where there is no substitute for speed. 

If you look, this appears to be over exposed.  The kickers leg was likely directly under one of the flood lights on the ceiling.  You could have gotten away with shooting at 125 instead of 60.  Also, in this situation, I regularly shoot my D200s at ISO 800 or 1600.  This would have gotten you closer to 250 and would have stopped the action better if not completely.

As for the background:  I think that you really mean "blur" the background, not "flatten".  For this you need to either get closer (which will narrow you DOF) or get a lens with a wider maximum aperture (which will do the same thing at a given distance.)

I think that your compsition is fine.  I might crop a little tighter (to the flag, but leave it in, and from the bottom.  Getting the peak of the action is very difficult.  You have come very close here, you may even have hit it!  This requires several things which all come down to shooting a lot.  First, you need to know and understand what is going on so that you can anticipate the peak and be ready for it.  Second, you need to know your camera extremely well and be able to prefocus on the correct spot and hit the shutter just before you want you image.  There is always a lag in an SLR but it should be consistant so that if you do this enough you will increase, but never perfect, your success rate.

Work, work, work, work, work . . . that's all I ever recommend any more!

Ed
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Ed Farmer
Mount Laurel, New Jersey

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This is my son.
The other guy is his instructor. It would be fun if we had time to go do a scenario in the woods!!! It will have to wait till we get settled in Atlanta. (moving)
I see what you are saying Susie, and in a canned environment that would work. Since Im more than likely going to be at a lot of these gym type events in the future, I'd like to be shooting them better.

Yesterday he was promoted to yellow belt and I had some of the same struggles with distance and poor lighting. As you can see.

thanks for all the feedback.

Corey
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Thank you Ed, I think we were typing at the same time and I just saw your response.
I should have put on my heftier lens. I will have to get it out. I dont use it that much because I havent taken the time to get to know it. Finishing typing, and immediately changing lens.
Yes, I do intend that I would like the background blurred and it makes sense what you are saying. Sometimes I just have to hear it again.
Thank you for the compliments. This was my very first martial arts event and I had no idea what to expect or when to expect it, so thank you.

Corey
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I know what you mean about shooting better in the gym, I guess I was just trying to set your expectations so they were realistic to what you can do in a gym.
Unfortunately here in Utah a lot of brides have their wedding reception in LDS church cultural halls (basically a basketball gym without the stands, but they have lines on the floor, hoops and everything else).  It's a great, free, convient (kitchens and bathrooms) facility, and there is one on every other block.  The problem is that they are not pretty and the lighting is horrible. I have a hard time with brides expecting me to turn out photos just like the ones I take at very beautiful, expensive locations that are built to be photographed.  It's hard.
I am not comparing you to those brides. I am just saying, for what you had to work with, you did amazing, keep practicing, Ed had great tips, and just know that you are going to be able to create the best shots you can with the situation you have to work with.
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Oh I know Susie, Im not expecting to make it look like its not in a gym, I just want to be shooting in the best way for the environment.


...Brides are funny! Big Grin  Im glad they have you.
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Couple of links for you.
What you can do in a gym.
http://strobist.blogspot.com/2009/11/on-assignment-planes-and-arrows.html
http://strobist.blogspot.com/2006/04/on-assignment-big-gym-little-lights.html
http://strobist.blogspot.com/2007/02/on-assignment-speedlighting-college-gym.html
http://strobist.blogspot.com/2007/03/q-speedlighting-gym.html
http://strobist.blogspot.com/2007/01/on-assignment-lighting-large-interior.html


When you get to Atlanta look this guy up. He likes Newcastle and has a great story of how he got to where he is today. Big Grin
zarias.com
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-John
Sarcasm, frustrating the clueless since 3000 b.c.
"There is no Un-Suck filter" David duChemin

Check out the new blog. http://www.jklebphoto.wordpress.com

cool John, thanks.
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zarias.com
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Thanks! He does seem right down my ally!!!
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