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This young lady can trace her ancestry to the Aztecs. I told her I liked her profile and asked her to please pose for me. It was an interesting shoot. I was to use an old piece of jewelry I collected around her neck. I was after a dark, primitive and sensual look. The focus was a bit soft, hate her nail color, none would have been better.
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Dwardo,

I like the pose very much.  But, image looks very flat or hazy.  Perhaps it was under exposed?

You all need to light her hair from the top in order to provide separation from the background.  This can be very difficult with black hair and a black background.

This is the second image of yours that I have reviewed and both have the same flat look.  I suspect that you are being far too conservative in post processing or that your monitor is too bright or saturated.

If your monitor is OK (look at other images posted here and compare them to yours) I would try to producing some very saturated images and them bring them down.  This might help you find the right balance.

Ed
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Ed Farmer
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I am sorry, I missed this until Ed posted.

I like the pose and the treatment of the subject and I like that you went for glistening and dewy skin, however I think you needed a little harder of a light source for that.  That may also help with the flat look that Ed mentioned. 

On my monitor it is a little red, a little dark and a little flat.  I think all three can be fixed in Photoshop.

She is very pretty, and I think it's great you were trying to shoot something true to her individual brand of beauty!  I strive so hard to do that with my boudoir photography, but a lot of girls are force fed that stupid one-size-fits-all mold of what beauty "should be" and it takes effort to get them past that.  I think here in this photo you really succeded.

Another note on post processing which unfortunately contradicts what I just said - but I would touch up the veins you see in her chest area.  They are normal, we all have them, we just don't want to see them in print Smiley
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Oh hey, I forgot to mention that I might try turning her nails dark dark red (almost black) for a more primative look.  Or just leave them be, they don't bother me that much.
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I am going to re-shoot it with a strobe and snoot behind her head to define the hair VS the background. I should be able to use a single flash and reflector fill and get some dimension (2 to 1 ratio) to the face to correct the flat look. I also believe that getting the flash further away will harden up the water droplets, what do you think Ed?
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Thanks GP, I agree with your lighting comment. I still am learning to slow down and see better. Thank you for your comment and compliment about my effort to capture her ethnic beauty, I agree with what you say.

Veins? Yep I see them, they are blue and I could clone them out, the skin softening action doesn't correct that. Black nails would look too Goth, I think a re-shoot with natural nail color is the answer. Regarding the red cast to my monitor, I will do what Ed suggested to look at other images to see if that is the case/ I appreciate the comments a lot, thanks to all who commented.
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Depending on the type of light you are using, yes moving it away will tighten up the highlights on the water drops.  One problem though is that they also have to be sharp to show up well.  This will be counteracted by any "skin softening" actions.

Ed
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Ed Farmer
Mount Laurel, New Jersey

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This is a problem, how would you solve it? Maybe use body MU, then do the water thing and pull the lights back?
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Is her skin so bad you have to do softening effects?  I rarely do much skin softening between the neck and hips (just face and legs, if needed).  Instead of all over skin softening just clone out any little blemishes.  That should work, but it depends on your model's skin.
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No GP, actually she has very nice skin, but a little thin on her breasts so that faint blue vein line shows in the photo. Perhaps you are right just a little cloning would do. Thanks! That would solve the problem for keeping the droplets sharp. Cool.
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Love the pose and the application of the blue paint. I can live with her fingernail color, since it's not black, haha. I think it gives a good contrast between modern day woman and tribal warrior.

As mentioned, a hairlight would have been really helpful, especially with the jet black hair, but your lighting, once the levels were correct, is really pretty on her skin.

Below, you can see what I did.

First, I adjusted the levels. If you look at the histograms, you can see there is less space along the left edge on my version, helping to darken the blacks.
Then I did an adjustment layer and dodged a bit in her hair to make up for the lack of a hairlight.
I next got rid of some digital noise.
Then, I took Susie's skin softening action and lightly applied it to just a couple areas of her face and breasts.
I then got rid of some of the veins on her breast.
Going to hue and saturation, I desaturated it a bit, getting rid of some of the extra not-natural redness, but keeping the amount that Indian skin tones normally have.
Total time: 5min.
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I do like Marian's version.  I usually always like the photo that has been "boosted" a little in Photoshop better though, and clients do too.  It's more rich.
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wildmavens version is really good. 
But going back to the original, I think the lighting was a bit off the mark, and perhaps the focus was off a bit.
The only thing I'd add to Marian's version would be a hard edge sharpening.
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"I want to warn you, my photos will always be a bit more fantasy than reality."

Yes, I can see the improvement. I will do what you did to the original image, however, I am not sure how to reduce digital noise as you mentioned.

The skin looks much more natural, my color tends to shift toward red. That seems to be a common critique of my images. Also what you did spiked the light on her chest to make it look more wet. Very nice work and in only five minutes in the "lab"...what a pro...cool. Thank you for your comments.
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I am not sure how to reduce digital noise as you mentioned.

Are you using Photoshop? If so: Filter - Noise - Reduce Noise. Play with the settings until you get a look that's pleasing.
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