Looking for advice and suggestions for PAF

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Ha!  The jokes on me . . . it took me so long to scroll through this thread that I thought it was on the mod forum!

Now we take you back to your regularly scheduled program . . .

Ed
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Ed Farmer
Mount Laurel, New Jersey

www.edfarmerphotography.com
www.photoartsforum.com

OK of the active posters we've got a couple of beginners, a couple of formally trained, a couple of VERY experienced, and a redneck from Tennessee that learned everything at the school of hard knocks.

The single most important thing is to reply to posts. If its a newbie be nice but tell the truth. If the photo is absolute rubbish mention the main point or two and send them a detailed PM. It shows you care enough to help them and not slam them in public. Those of us that have been around, slice and dice baby!! I've already made my vote as to who should moderate or help. Another point is that the only way the Eds are going to hang around the rest of us peasants is for us to push them. Why did you do this instead of that, was there a reason you shot from that angle instead of  from the other side.. etc. etc.etc. A heated argument to me is better than dead silence.




Well said Bob.  Most of you know, I don't get a lot of replies when I post something.  I know that I am not nearly as talented as most of you, but I am trying.  Everyone tells me that I need to keep posting and "there is a wealth of knowledge in the members of this site, if you want to listen".  But that is near impossible when no one comments on my stuff.  I do truly appreciate the help that I have gotten from this site, but it is hard not to lose interest when nobody ever responds.  I definately struggle with the technical stuff, especially lighting, but no one ever says exactly what I need to do to adjust the problem.  I am definately handicapped by my equipment and lack of money lately, and it is hard to go out and buy an excellent lighting setup.  I guess what I am looking for is a real world solution to the problems with my photography.  I do think this is a great site, but I think most of us amatuers would appreciate more comments and critique.  Thank you for taking the time to read my opinion.

~Andrea
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Well behaved women seldom make history. Wink

Andrea,

Yep . . . that's exactly the problem that we are talking about!  There are not many of here who feel qualified to comment on images.  Some hold back because they don't feel that their work is good enough, some just don't know how to talk about images in a way that they feel can be productive.  But, that shouldn't matter.

If you look through the posts in the "Portrait" forum, you will see that most only three to five replies.  The ones that get more are "discussions", not just teaching sessions.  In other words, ask questions!  If you don't get any replies, poke your head in and ask why.  You might be surprised.  If you get a response, but there is nothing telling you how to correct the problem, step in and ask.  You will surely be surprised.

Don't take any of it personally.  Or, anything that I have said here.  This is really directed at all of our members who don't feel that they are getting everything that they can out of this site.

What you can take personally . . . is that I am going to start a thread in the portrait section directed at available light.  It won't be an Ed S. type of lesson.  I will post a few images and talk about the equipment used.  However, I will agree to answer any questions that anyone asks as well as I can!

Ed
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Ed Farmer
Mount Laurel, New Jersey

www.edfarmerphotography.com
www.photoartsforum.com

Well said Ed.  I completely understand now and appreciate your patience with me.  I take everything that is said to me to heart and use it to improve myself.  I actually have gone back a couple of years, since I started posting here and on Zuga.  I don't think you would believe the improvment I have made.  Is this the career for me?  Not yet, and maybe not ever, but I am a much better photographer for posting here and taking your advice and the advice of the others.  Thank you to all of you from the bottom of my heart.  It sounds cheesy, but you have no idea the true difference that you all have made in my life.

~Andrea
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It sounds cheesy, but you have no idea the true difference that you all have made in my life.

~Andrea

I've been told something similar to that, scared me to death.

Some of us have been shooting since the camera was invented... *nudges the Eds*  Some of us have been shooting for a while some for a few months. The point is if you do or don't like something about a photo and can describe what it is (unless you’re me talking about one of Mikes shots) Speak up. Not how to fix it, unless you know, but just that it rubs you wrong. There may be something that your comment provokes that turns the shooter into the next Monte. Ya never know.
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"I get up every morning determined to both change the world and have one heck of a good time. Sometimes this makes planning my day difficult. "- EB White

Chattanooga Photographer www.BobEdens.com

I'm only 46 you know . . .

However, I did convert my bedroom into a darkroom when I was 12 . . .

 Grin

Ed
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Ed Farmer
Mount Laurel, New Jersey

www.edfarmerphotography.com
www.photoartsforum.com

Wow Ed, you're a child...

I turned 50 last october but I've only been a serious shooter since 1989.  I too had a "early" darkroom (in 1969) but didn't have an enlarger so my prints were 35mm. being so young I lost interest in developing film and focused on motor bikes. (probably why I'm in a chair now but thats a discussion for another thread)

What were we talking about?
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"I get up every morning determined to both change the world and have one heck of a good time. Sometimes this makes planning my day difficult. "- EB White

Chattanooga Photographer www.BobEdens.com

Ya'll are old.  I am still in my 20's (but not for too long).  I hope everyone knows I said that in good humor.

My husband and I grew up with darkrooms in our respective homes.  My mother still uses hers in her late 60's.  She mainly does restoration and copies of old photos.  My husband's parents are still photographers (mainly wildlife) but they have switched to digital. 
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I was in my 20s from 1977 to 1987, which is the time the Viet Nam vets were all trying to fit back into society. So I'm sorry I can't really say I remenber my 20s (I do remember most of the good parts and some of the really bad parts but the rest are shrouded in a purple haze) I guess growing up with photography you've probably more expierence than your years say.

 I had you for mid/late 30s at least. Based on the fact it was your skills and level of conversation that made me think that, it is a compliment. 

Based on everyone here, I'm probably one of the old guys, I hope nobody expects me to grow up...
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"I get up every morning determined to both change the world and have one heck of a good time. Sometimes this makes planning my day difficult. "- EB White

Chattanooga Photographer www.BobEdens.com

Never Bob!  Stay true to yourself.  I am only 28, but I will NEVER grow up and no one can make me!   Tongue
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That's funny Bob, in real life most people think I am younger than I am.  OR maybe they are just trying to compliment me by guessing younger on purpose, who really knows. 

I am pretty mature for my age (or so I like to think).  I grew up with parents that expected me to be a responsible adult, I met my husband when I was 18 and we got married when I was 20.  I am a mother and yes I have dabbled in photography for as long as I can remember.

Anyway, age is such an unimportant thing (or at least I keep telling myself that as each year goes by and I am getting closer to 30).

The original topic is long gone, but I think in a way all this banter as helped to solve the initial thoughts about getting this forum more active.
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There is one thing worse than getting older.



not getting older.

[grin]
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"I get up every morning determined to both change the world and have one heck of a good time. Sometimes this makes planning my day difficult. "- EB White

Chattanooga Photographer www.BobEdens.com

Bob . . . That's pretty much what I have always said, "Growing old isn't so great, but it sure beats the alternatives!"  Well, I have always said that and "Good riddence to bad rubbish!"

That's an inside joke for my wife, even though she doesn't read the site.

Ed
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Ed Farmer
Mount Laurel, New Jersey

www.edfarmerphotography.com
www.photoartsforum.com

Aged? I'll be 45 in March, O no, mid life crisis. :=)
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Hey all.  As I'm sure everybody has noticed the discussions here have been waning over the past couple of weeks. 

...and then came wildmaven... Grin Blame Bob
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Comments and Harsh Critiques gladly accepted. My photos are ok to edit.

My photos and art: http://wildmaven.org

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