Ok, I'm confused as can be about digital sizing

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Unfortunately, that's all fine and good in theory, but customers want photos that they can go out and buy a frame for without having to get it custom made.

The prints we sell the most of at the gallery are matted in 11x14" mats. The artists who sell theirs in oddball mats hardly ever sell.

I would LOVE to produce work that conforms to my vision instead of the frame restrictions, but in the real world, when you need to put food on the table, convention wins. Tongue
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Hi Again!

I'll make it brief as I can. 

Many years ago, I was on the seminar circuit- I did a lot of teaching.  I stopped doing that because even after a 5 day workshop, people would compliment me and then say "that's all well and good but in my town it won't work..."  I got so tired of that and I gave up on the seminar thing- it got depressing.  Every now and again, however, I would get a letter or a phone call from a photographer who would tell me that he or have tried out some or all of my strategies and that their bottom line has increased significantly. 

What I suggest you do is take a close look at other businesses in you area and see if they haven't progressed over the years- businesses like appliance stores, fashion boutiques, car dealerships and grocery stores.  Are they doing the same thing thy did 5 or 10 years ago- have their prices gone up?

What you don't show you can't sell and if you want bread on the table- MORE bread-  you are going to have to do something to be a cut above the rest.  If you are not fulfilling you vision as an artist- that can't be a happy situation!

You don't have to drop what you are doing- you just have to phase in new products gradually.

Also the article I posted explains the problems of proportion and aspect ratio- this has nothing to do with changing things- just makes it easier to get compositions to fit things into frames, cards and albums.

Good luck to you!   Ed.
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Ed Shapiro
The Hintonburg Studio
Suite 201  78 Hinton Avenue North
Ottawa, Ontario CANADA  K1Y 0Z8
613-792-4837    Email:  edshapiro@rogers.com

Ed, you are right of course.  And about a year ago I took 4x6's off my price list and they were never missed.  The only time I crop that way is for engagement pictures when they need that size.

We all do things for reasons we understand.  I offer standard sizes because it's easy to price prints and take orders that way.  I can say "an 11x14 costs x amount of dollars and an 8x10 costs this much".  If I cropped something in a different way it would be a little harder to explain how I could print it.  I would then charge how?  by the square inch?  Well, I guess it could work, my lab charges that way....  However, figuring out their pricing on custom sizes gives me a headache.  I may be underestimating my clients, I may be taking the quick and easy route BUT I may change how I do everything next year... we'll see.  The important thing is that you come up with a system you feel comfortable with, one you can explain with confidence to your clients.  If you ever feel or sound apologetic for anything you do or any prices you charge you will be dismissed as not a professional by your clients.
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What you don't show you can't sell and if you want bread on the table- MORE bread-  you are going to have to do something to be a cut above the rest.  If you are not fulfilling you vision as an artist- that can't be a happy situation!

You don't have to drop what you are doing- you just have to phase in new products gradually.

I do agree with you. And we do have artists with works that are non-traditional sizes. It's one of the things that caught my eye when we were selecting them. However, the sale of their work is what earns income for us. If the odd sizes aren't selling, I would rather have them replace those with pieces that will sell. Same goes for an artist who has one piece that's not moving due to the subject matter. I ask that they replace it with something else. I would love, love, love, to keep those specially sized pieces on the wall, because they are fabulous. But if they aren't moving, they have to get moved. Sad Perhaps when/if the gallery gets more successful, then we'll be able to afford to keep some of those special pieces on the walls because I love them, even if they don't sell.
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Jacque - I bet the guides are nice, I just learned about where to crop, I always leave space around my image because you can always crop in, not out.
Yes, the guides work great!  Shooting for 8x10 ect, no pixel waste, less time recropping in post production... good stuff!

I've added guides to my focusing screens with pencil lines or tape untill recently, when I purchased an  etched guide.  Haven't been satisfied with unreturned emails and slooowww shipping, but if/when that gets resolved, I'll post the link.
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Thanks for brining this up Marian!
I had the same question but could not have been as elegant in asking it.

 Big Grin
Corey
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