OLD HOLLYWOOD GLAMOURLibrary Thread

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Ok...so, I have two of my friends come out to the studio to get some promo's shot for my V-Day Special!  We had SOOOO much fun!  I had previously contacted the person in charge for our local Village Player's Theatre Group, and he gave me free reign of the all the costumes at the Huber Opera House!  Took over 1 1/2 hours going through everything!!!  Walked out with two armloads of gowns, dresses, hats, etc... 

I had a difficult time using "vintage lighting" as it's soooo hard to "stray" from the "rules"...so I just used my own lighting style with a few twists...

Here are some  of my favorites!  I'm soooo excited to do this!  Of course, I did all the hair and makeup!
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Very pretty.  Are these the type of images you want to do? Will you have access to the costumes for regular clients or do they have to bring their own?
Are you using fake eyelashes?  For this type of style I think you can go more dramatic and get fuller ones.
I like your black and white conversions. You can probably get away with a little more contrast, maybe I am just thinking that because your light is pretty soft for the style, but it's good, soft lighting is usually more flattering and honestly I use pretty flat light a lot of the time.
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I wouldn't say that these are what I'm going to focus on year round...I'm certainly more of a "Senior Photographer"...but I do enjoy doing these!  I haven't decided on whether I'm going to continue to offer this kind of portraiture after Valentines Day or not???  I suppose I'm just going to have to see how well they are received, and if it's worth my time to continue them.

Yes..we used fake eyelashes...just the dollar store kind, which I think were fine for something like this.  I might buy the bigger one's for the "Pin Up" style I'm shooting next week!

The BW conversions were strictly done in RAW conversion, and amped up with levels if needed.  I know they're a softer light than historically accurate lighting would be...and I was ok with that.  I'm addicted to the softer more flattering light! LOL  Contrast was "image determined" hehehe if that makes any sense?  Like I said...it's hard to switch "styles" and veer away from what you're used to!  I'm doing another one today...so maybe I'll try a more harder light again!
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If you don't like hard light then don't use it. It's a little out of my comfort zone, and when I experiment with it sometimes it works, sometimes it's not my favorite. I always leave it to the end after we have captured all the shots the client wants.

The lashes look fine, and honestly the cheap ones have gotten better over the years. I think you could get away with a lot fuller lashes for this style, whereas some of the shoots I have done lately we haven't used lashes at all, we were going for more natural, but Old Hollywood had nothing natural about it, lol.

I think it's amazing you do the hair and makeup. Multi-talented.
For pin-up looks my MUA does a "modernized pinup" style which my clients LOVE. True pinup doesn't use eyeshadow or under eye lining, just huge lashes and LOTS of black liner on the top, she does a softer top, brushes eyeshadow with a fine moistened brush under the eye and adds a little contouring grey or pink or brown on the lid and a touch of pink blush as well as the iconic red lips and it's really pretty, not as harsh.

Tara, I'm sorry I am a procrastinator, I just barely checked out your website.  I love it.
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I love Hollywood lighting. It made my wife wonder what my obsession with Kubrick movies was until I stopped to show her some behind the scenes stuff on him.

To me Hollywood lighting isn't about being hard or soft, it's about intent. Movies move if that makes sense. Because the image is constantly shifting the lighting has to be very deliberate about what you seeing; it shapes the frame. A still photo gives you time to explore the frame and find the details. A movie has to show you within a few seconds or less what you should be looking at and tell the visual story of the scene.

In the old days studios had instructions for lighting and photography directors about how certain actors and actresses had to be lit and shot. They reinforced the brand and image of these people by showing them in a consistent fashion, and insured that the best side and attributes were always shown. Once the reins were loosened a bit you started to get films that were either a wonderful new look, or a horrible new look until people figured it out. After that "Hollywood" lighting all looked out of date and old fashioned; now it's called retro and it's cool again. Big Grin

There's a movie called "Visions of Light" about filming and lighting from the silent film days till the early 90's. I know it's on Netflix, not sure how common it is to find elsewhere.
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-John
Sarcasm, frustrating the clueless since 3000 b.c.
"There is no Un-Suck filter" David duChemin

I friend and I researched the work of George Hurrell a few years ago.  He was pretty much the master of the "Hollywood" style during the 30's and 40's.

One of the things that we found was the he demanded that his subjects wear no makeup at all!  Then he either underexposed his 8x10 negatives or underdeveloped (or both) and drew in the image with pencils on the back side of the negative.  This is how is achieved those perfectly smooth skin tones while use hard spotlights.

BTW:  I love your work Tara . . . I think that the more that you do this, the harder you will let the light go.  But, I do like these very much!
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This is how is achieved those perfectly smooth skin tones while use hard spotlights.

Ah Ha, I have struggled with hard lighting and skin. I feel better now.
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I think it's amazing you do the hair and makeup. Multi-talented.
hehehe...I've been watching EVERY tutorial on Youtube, and studying on learning both the hair and the makeup!  I don't charge enough to cover the cost of someone else doing hair and make...Our community has been so hard that I really had a hard time pricing this package.  I'll post my "quickie" pic of the promo...not my final one by any means...but just something to throw up on my facebook!

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I friend and I researched the work of George Hurrell a few years ago.  He was pretty much the master of the "Hollywood" style during the 30's and 40's.

I LOVE his work!  I googled him for days!!!  LOL  There's just something "so classic" about his work!  I'm amazed at the quality of work with so little resources they did back then compared to now!  I'm finding the whole "history" of it soooo interesting!  I'm a sucker for classic stuff!  And thanks so much for the compliments!!!  I still pick apart all my stuff though! hehehe

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Once the reins were loosened a bit you started to get films that were either a wonderful new look, or a horrible new look until people figured it out


I soooooooooooo totally agree!!  Couldn't have said it any better myself!

Ok...so here's my "quickie info promo"...
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Youtube actually has great stuff. There is one girl in particular that does great eye makeup tutorials and she tells you all the products she uses (mostly MAC). She does a great tutorial on fake eyelashes, I always removed them by peeling from the edge, and she she said to pull them from the middle so they don't stretch and loose their shape, duh, why didn't I think of that?
http://www.youtube.com/user/panacea81

I like the ad, I don't love the wording at the top, I don't want to be an "old" anything, but I get you are going for "old fashioned", it's not a big deal and not even worth me bringing up... so I don't know why I did... Smiley

Otherwise I think it's great, I really do need a Facebook page.
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How about "Become a Hollywood Starlet with a vintage photo session."
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-John
Sarcasm, frustrating the clueless since 3000 b.c.
"There is no Un-Suck filter" David duChemin

hmmmmmmmm...yes..I did think about that AFTER the fact!  LOL  I wouldn't want to be made "OLD" either!  I like your idea jkleb!!!  Think I'll change it when I have a little more time!  Big Grin
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lol, I don't think it's a big enough deal to change, but it is a little funny.
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