"Riverscape"



I'm new here, but not used to how the forums are set up. I'm more used to the ProBoards and IF kind. I was invited here because I wasn't finding much help elsewhere.

Anyway, here's the story behind the picture. I had gone fishing with my cousin to a pond, and thought this was a pretty good shot. It was around 4 or 5, but it was obviously starting to get dark in that particular area so wanted to snap some photographs while I could. I like this one the best of all the pictures I had taken that day just because of the vibrant colors that I'm getting. I don't like how it's so blurry but that's mainly because I forgot to focus on a particular subject before composing the shot. I'm sure had I focused on the trees I would've at least to some amount removed the blur.
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well first welcome to our little community!!
You said you didn't get help on other boards but didn't ask any questions. [shrug]
Here are my thoughts about the photo and what you said.

You can sharpen a photo but only to a point, blurry is blurry, can't do much about it.

If you raise the contrast (in levels drag the left and center dots a little to the right)
it also might help if you warmed it a bit (added a tiny bit of red).

It also might help if you darken the entire image a LOT this would hide some of the blur and give it a "mysterious" feel.

just some comments, hope it helps.
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My first thought is there really isn't a subject.  It's a really cool location with great colors, but needs a focal point.  I've got a thing for shots of paths going off into the woods and took dozens of them before I inadvertently took one with a person in it.  The one with the person is still one of my favorite shots ever. Maybe you could have talked your cousin into taking the boat along the shore and go through the motions of fishing to give the viewer something to lock on to. 

And not really related to this image, but feel free to attach your images to your post rather than linking to Imageshack.  If they're attached our forum software can pull out the EXIF metadata and tell us a little more about the image. 

Oh yeah, and  Welcome to PAF
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Hm, I'm not seeing the blur too much. Could be the size of the image here on the forum.
Is it motion blur or un-focused blur?  Like Ryan said, attach the images directly here so we can see what your shutter speed and F stop were set at, that will give us a better idea as to what happened. (Keep in mind that your file size needs to be under 256kb to attach it here, but with a little resize and even compressing to 10 or 11 as a jpg it is easy, 256 is pretty generous).

I think the shot is lovely. There is no obvious subject which does weaken the image slightly. Try to put your vanishing point or where the bend occurs into one of the "rule of thirds" points.

I agree with adding contrast, but I would try it in the midtones first, go to shadow/highlight in Photoshop, drag the shadow slider all the way left so it doesn't change that, and then at the bottom drag the midtone contrast slider right a touch until it's more dramatic.

I would also try making a duplicate layer, in the blend mode (there is a box of options above the layer palette) select "soft light" and then drop the opacity until you get a nice glowy and ethreal look and then flatten. I don't have Photoshop where I am right now or I would try it. I am imagining you will get a good result with it, but I can't experiment right now so I don't know.

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« Last Edit: April 10, 2010, 09:07:14 AM by Ginnypenny »
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Hello, guys, thank you for the polite criticism and helpful tips, which I've followed to the best of my understanding. =)

1 - I sharpened the image, I think it did automatically. I liked how it erased the blur I was able to see in the full view. I wasn't exactly loving the sharpen thing before, as I couldn't understand how to work it with all that numbers and "Radius", "Threshold", etc. As for the kind of blur, it was mostly out-of-focus blur. I was just snapping as many photos as I could because it was almost time for us to leave.

2 - I adjusted the contrast just like you suggest, Mr. Edens. Moved the left and middle cursors to the left, did some re-adjusting in the backward directions a couple of times until I got the look I liked. I didn't darken it any more than that mainly because if I did then it would be too dark to me.

3 - I couldn't find the filter options until I realized it was as "Photo Filters". But, when I found it, I used "Warming Filter (85), and it would only let me use the orange hue for it. I put the density at 60%, though, and it still has a nice look.

4 - When I looked at the image through the camera, it didn't appear blurry until I had uploaded it to the PC. But we weren't also using a boat, we were fishing from a bridge, and I just decided to hike around and see what I could find. Mostly just trees and water.

5 - I did the Shadows/Highlights, too. Kept the shadow cursor at 0 and raised the highlight one to 25%. Wasn't seeing much difference, though.

6 - Did the soft light, moved it to around maybe 10 to 20 percent. The picture at first came out to be too dark, and I couldn't see some of the trees in the foreground, so wanted to lower it to just about enough. =)

After following all your tips, and I did learn some interesting steps in PS along the way, I decided to try and add my favorite exposure setting to the photo, and it gave the photo a nice look. I also tried to check it out in B+W to see how it would look, but personally I think I like the color better! I've saved two copies of this particular photo, after the tips, but one with the exposure setting I put on and the other without. =) The one I'm attaching has the exposure setting.

Tried to attach, file was too big. After resizing, it said I had already posted but I don't see my post! So had to upload from ImageShack again. Hopefully I will be able to attach photos without a problem soon, =).



Edit: URL tags and IMG tags were conflicting, so removed URL tags.

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Riverscape.

The most striking technique in you image is the fact that you framed the most interesting part of the scene in the darker trees in the foreground.  This emphasizes the the mood of the water.  If you were to darken the trees just a bit more, the viewer's eye would go to the water area that is more mysterious and romantic than the tree line. 

You may even consider cropping a bit so the dividing line between the tree line and the water is not so much on center.  This however, is hard for me to determine because I can't see the entire image without scrolling up and down the screen.  Just reduce the size of the images you are posting.  This gives more impact when the viewers first see the image.

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After all those edits I like the original better,  Big Grin

In the shadow/highlight menu don't mess with the highlight slider, that will darken your highlights (but not in a good way usually). At the bottom (you might have to click a button that shows more options) there will be a slider for midtone contrast, that's the one I meant for you to play with.
I also think you warmed the image up too much, you don't want to loose the pretty greens.
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