Say Cheese!

This little girl's Mom told me not to tell her to say Cheese because she already loved to be photographed and would give me fake smiles.  She did anyway, but we had a lot of fun and got some cute pictures.  She was very cooperative as long as we did it her way, which of course, was fine by me.  Mom says she had fun with 'Trabis' and wanted her pictures taken again.  Sounds like I have a satisfied customer!  Smiley

Comments and critique are certainly welcome.

Travis
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LOL  She's going to be a heart breaker!

Nice!  One question though, did you mean to leave off the dodge on the bottom right?
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...your a bigger man than me, ive gotten to where if i think the client wants something outside of what i want to produce, or one who thinks they can tell me how to do my job i politely send them on.  i'm aweful handling some things in this business.
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I hope you don't mind me critiquing those images.

Your main light is in both images too low. Just look at the catchlights in the eyes. Moreover, why did you use broad lighting? In my opinion short lighting would have suited her much better.
She is just too close to the background or you have stopped down the lens too much in the first image; it should have been out of focus and it is not. I don't think the colour of the backgroundsuits het clothing, but that is a matter of taste.
The light on the background in the second picture is missing; it should separate her from the background.
All in all, nice images of a nice girl, but she could have been photographed technically better.
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Question:
In the second image, Leen says put light on the background. What if you put light on her (hair light) instead?
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It would have about the same effect. You can also apply both. Most important is there is a separation between the sitter and the background. It is pretty important the subject comes loose, this way suggesting some more space than there really is.

Leen
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Regarding the backdrops:
The blue isn't perfect, but it doesn't clash.
I like the reddish background.  It suits the warm color of the dress.  It matches nicely with the flowers on the bottom of the bodice of the dress from the top picture.  I also like it because of the redness of her hair.  However because of the lack of separation from the background you probably won't be able to successfully turn it black and white since the tone of her hair is too close to the red.

Anyway, these are darling pictures and you should be proud.  The expression in the top picture is a bit more genuine, but they are both so cute.

I am not a lighting expert, so this is opinion, but I personally don't mind flat or broad lighting on children, especially this age and younger.  They naturally have rounder cheeks and that's part of their appeal.  If you try and sculpt their faces with light you lose that baby charm.  Like I said, it's totally opinion but it is coming from a mother.
 
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newrmdmike, I think maybe you misunderstood me.  It was the little girl who wanted everything her way, not the Mother being bossy.  I didn't specify that very well.  The Mom did mention that she gets cheesy if you are too obvious about when you are going to take each shot, but I didn't mind that information at all.  I figure most people want the best they can get out of their portraits the same as I want to give it to them, and I don't mind working with them and their ideas to get it.

Leen, of course I don't mind your critique.  I appreciate all the feedback I can get and I am very grateful for your willingness to share your experience and insight.

For the record; I know the background isn't quite out of focus on the one image.  I am working in a fairly confined space, so I don't have the ability to use a longer lens and back up, and I can't get her further from the background and still get the full length shot.  Also, I have a variable aperture lens, so even though it could go to f2.8 at its widest, f/4.0 is what I shoot at so I don't have to readjust with different focal lengths (and I am constantly changing throughout a children's session to get what I want from it).  As for the lighting, it was very much the same way, I don't have the room to be moving my main light back and forth as she changed positions.  But even if I could, I probably wouldn't have.  I truly do try to create an atmosphere where the kids are acting quite naturally, with only some guidance from me on how to stand/sit/pose.  I try to give them things to do and look at that will place them where I want them without telling them to hold still.  This makes it somewhat difficult to perfect the lighting and poses sometimes, but I think it's worth it because I get some very natural looks and expressions from the kids.  Also, I feel like I keep them interested for longer than most photographers are able because they are not in an environment that they fell pressured to perform.  They are truly talking and laughing and playing with me as I take pictures, so they remain interested for quite a while.  This in turn allows me a lot more opportunities to get those priceless expressions.  Although I don't necessarily disagree that the short lighting may have been better, I would never sacrifice the rest of the shoot in order to move lights.  Not with small children anyway.  Besides, I haven't had very many Mom's approach me for pictures and ask me for a specific lighting pattern.

And for the record, I really like the blue background.  This is something I seem to have a different taste for than most, though.  There have been several pictures I have posted that have had comments about not liking my background choices, and I am usually the only one that likes one, while everyone else seems to not like it.  It's actually something I need to be aware of for my clients, their taste is probably more 'normal', like all of yours.  I just seem to have a slightly odd opinion of colors, I guess.  I personally think the red one is too dramatic for a sweet little girl, even though it might fit with the flowers in the dress.  Like I say, I'm weird.  I view images more from an emotional point of view than a 'clash' or 'match' point of view; although I do agree you can't get too out there or things will look very strange.

Travis
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Travis
I read your comment about the red backdrop being too dramatic (which I disagree) and I scrolled back up to look at the blue.  It does almost have an angelic feel to it.  Too bad her expression isn't a little more mischevious in the picture with the red backdrop, you would have had an angel/devil thing going on.
Ok, I am being silly.
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Ok, Travis, please forgive me for playing with your picture I couldn't help it.  You don't have to like it, I just wanted to try changing the background and boosting the saturation a little. 
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This is what is so wonderful about the visual arts.  Everyone can have an opinion, and they can all be right.  I, for one, think you have ruined my picture.  I'm sorry.  The background is now dead, and her skin tone has taken on an unrealistic reddish tint to it.  Not to mention that now it looks like she's been crying because of the redness around her eyes.  The dress, in my opinion, was a gorgeous pastel color, the background only reinforced that, as well as the paleness of her skin.  All of that has been taken away in this rendition.  Not to mention that this girl's skin is in a fact a beautiful light complexion against her dark hair, why would you want to change that?

It is wonderful that everyone can have their opinion.  I certainly am not trying to tell anyone what is right or wrong, or even necessarily to defend what I have done.  But that is my opinion on this particular image.  Again, I view things with a lot of emotional definition, and the softness and airy feeling in the pastel-colored shot I put up is still my personal favorite.

Travis
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Travis, I knew you probably wouldn't like it, that is why I prefaced my post telling you that you didn't have to.  It was an experiment.  Not all experiments work, I felt so-so about it, but I had a clue the original artist would have a stronger opinion.
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