Self Portrait-Head Shot

Well, I guess I'll be the first to submit here.  BTW, I am very grateful that PAF kept a professional critique section.  Thank you.

OK, this is a self-portrait that I would like to start using for my business and marketing materials.  I have been selected for a gallery showing along with some of my other peers and friends and the organization needs a head shot for their website and marketing for their exhibit.  I am planning on using this photo for that purpose, as well as for my own needs.

I used a large, north facing window as a main.  I placed a black reflector (or subtractor, I guess) on the shadow side to block some of the spill/reflectance from the room's walls and increase the light ratio.  I then gobo'd the background because I wanted it very dark.  I don't know how it looks on web yet, but there is detail and curving lines running from the top right down to the where my shoulder leaves the left side of the image in my file, and I will make sure the lab prints so these show up; however they are just barely there.  Last, I placed a mono witha 7" reflector behind me and at about 135 deg. for the separation light, it is 1/3 stop less light than the main.

Travis
Logged


Maybe I should actually post an image for you to look at.

 Grin
Attachments
This post contains 1 attachment, but as a guest you cannot view attachments. Signing up at PhotoArtsForum will allow you to view attachments and post your own messages. If you already are a member at PhotoArtsForum please login.
Logged


YOU HANDSOME DEVIL YOU!  Camera

HERE'S THE CRITIQUE;

The first thing that strikes me is that you have 2 kicker or side lights coming in from opposite direction and this has caused a disunity of lighting that is not real, that is, unless we have 2 suns.  Main lights and kickers should come from the same direction.  The kickers add addition specular highlights and dilineate facial features, especially in a 2/3 view of the face where am additional highlight is formed on the far cheek and the nose.  The main light's job is to provide a nice lighting on the mask of the face.

In your image, your eyes are obscured in shadow as is part of you face.  Lighting like this may be good if you are looking for some mysterious theatrical effect but is generally not good for publicity photographs where you want to look approachable and happy. 

I don't know why so many photographers want to portray themselves as "dark" behind the shadows types or morose individuals.  In a "business" portrait you want to look like you are eager and happy to do business with folks and a smile never hurts.

Ed

Logged

Ed Shapiro
The Hintonburg Studio
Suite 201  78 Hinton Avenue North
Ottawa, Ontario CANADA  K1Y 0Z8
613-792-4837    Email:  edshapiro@rogers.com

Hello Travis,

So thats what you look like! No cowboy hats i am disappointed LOL

Ok lets look at the good points I instantly see in this photo, your positioning of yourself is good you are leaning into the camera and have a nice solid diagional running across your back, from shoulder to shoulder so well done. The amount of people in a self-portrait who end up sitting like they just found the missing tent pole well you can imagine.

No onto the two areas that I dont like, firstly the tie, you have a good winsor knot in it so looks presentable but whast going on with the white space above it. If you have a tie on in a photo always makesure it is right up to the top of the shirt, no gap, no spaces, no excuses. A tie is a symbol of power and authority, it comes from the gentry wearing it to distingush themselves from the lowly peasents who had neck scarfs. That tie must be tight in and showing, as soon as it starts to drop it then portrays the wearer as slightly undone, the first thing I do after a wedding is undo the tie a little to breath, that to me is being finished with the presentaton of myself as a package. This by the way is a very british thing, we stand on pomp and cermony, it is our bread and butter, Tea and jam, Jelly and Eels see that shocked you! So in conclusion just check it is all the way up, a little trick is to put a triangle of card in the front pocket of the winsor knot and pin the back, that way its going to stay solid for ages.

Second point and more important is the lighting. Travis your description of the lighting was almost as ong as my triad on the tie. What lighting do we have outside, what is our natural light? Yep that big ball of burning gas that my optican keeps showing me and saying well if u can see that far you dont need glasses LOL. Here is a Stew Mantra for you Lighting LIS, nope i dont want to make out with you it stands for Keep It Simple. You have looked at this porject and gone this is to show me at my best, its to show everything I know in photography as it is me. The lights come out and bounce around here there and everywhere but is it adding to your photograph.

Stewarts guide to lighting

1. Set up your main light, get it just right. now look at your subject
2. If the lighting looks good, leave it you dont need anything else. You cant improve perfection but you can ruin it
3. If it doesnt look right and your fill light
4. move that fill light around get it perfect then
5. have a look at your subject if that fill has made the subject look worse take it away dont think oh no I have spent this long setting up i must use it forget it and go with what you know best photographing a subject.

Thats my take on lighting I see so many diagrams that people say this is how itook it and I think wow how many power stations do you own! You have a good photo that has been over cooked by thinking too much about what you want to show a great effort just remember KIS

Cheers and Beers  Drinks

Stew
Logged


Is it OK for us to reply back in this new critique forum, or are you hoping for us to take what you said and move on like the last one?  I know the rules say no whining, so I am assuming you are allowing a conversation to be had between the reviewers and the submitter; is this correct?

Travis
Logged


I believe you can reply to this, but If Ryan or Ed F have any differnt stance on this I will let them say.

The no whining is to stop the following comments

"But I think its great"
"Oh you just wouldnt be able to do that"
"Well thanks but no thanks"
"What the Hell, I'm the best how can you say that"

oh and my personal favorite

"Well I dont like your work so what does it matter"

Cheers and Beer

Stew

p.s. I know no one would say that, when I stand up I cause the sun to have its own shadow lol  Grin
Logged


Quote
Is it OK for us to reply back in this new critique forum, or are you hoping for us to take what you said and move on like the last one?  I know the rules say no whining, so I am assuming you are allowing a conversation to be had between the reviewers and the submitter; is this correct?
Feel free to reply to the comments on your images.  This is a place to come and learn, and I think that you can learn more by being able to discuss the comments. 

The idea is to help you become a better photographer.
Logged


Hey, everyone.  Thanks so much for your critiques!  I was actually going for a theatrical, dark type look; but I certainly understand that it's probably not going to be too good for a business portrait.  I will re-shoot for that and post it here again for you to comment on again.  I knew about the two light source thing, but I have actually seen this done a lot in Hollywood lately, mostly on cop shows and all these "hero-lawyer" series (I know, no excuses).  So again, maybe I got what I wanted for this image, but maybe it isn't what I should be doing for the purpose I had in mind.  Point taken.  As for the lighting, I really don't think it was that tough, I only set up one strobe, and two black reflectors.  I did want to explain it well enough that a good critique could be made about it, however.  The tent pole thing hurts, I stopped doing that after the first couple attempts!  And I'll work on the tie, I've never noticed as much as you do, Stewart.

Travis
Logged


OK, guys, here's a second attempt.  I actually ended up with two more very similar shots with this attempt, but I think this one shows my 'true' personality a little better (and my wife agrees).  She actually told me to stop taking pictures of myself if I didn't start smiling.  She actually claims that no one who knows me takes me serious, and the serious look didn't fit me whatsoever.  So, here you go; me and my crooked smile and squinty eye.  I actually have a strong tendency not to raise my left eyebrow as well, but somehow I controlled it for this photo.

BTW, don't tell yourself to say 'cheese'.  I got hungry and had to do the shoot in two sittings.  Grin
Attachments
This post contains 1 attachment, but as a guest you cannot view attachments. Signing up at PhotoArtsForum will allow you to view attachments and post your own messages. If you already are a member at PhotoArtsForum please login.
Logged


First thing that strikes me: hardly any separation from the background.....

Why do you go through so much trouble? Just a plain background would do, never mind the colour if it ain't too dark. This is a promotional image, not a work of art! The only way it should do its job is to show who you are and just simple image wil do. Nobody wants to study it before understanding.
Logged


Moderator
Pro Critique
Much better!  Tell your wife that you have a Narcissus complex and that's why you keep photographing yourself! Better yet, Involve her in the process and have her pay attention to detail such as you tie- wives are better at that than any master photographer on earth!  When, however, the resort to cleaning your face off with spit- it is time to send the away from the camera!

As Leen said- use a lighter background to get more separation, especially if you are going to print this image on promotional material, business cards or use it on you web site.  All theses media will increase the contrast of the original image and you will blend in beyond recognition- as if you have no hair.

Photo-offset and conventional printing processes require good separation of tones for accurate rendition of tones.

Looking good!   Ed S.
Logged

Ed Shapiro
The Hintonburg Studio
Suite 201  78 Hinton Avenue North
Ottawa, Ontario CANADA  K1Y 0Z8
613-792-4837    Email:  edshapiro@rogers.com

Admin
The expression in your second image is much better if you're selling yourself as a photographer.  Personally I think that photographers need to come across as friendly people, although that may be a discussion for a thread over in the business / marketing section.  But if I was looking for a photographer for my wedding or family portraits I'd want someone friendly looking like you are in the second shot.  If I was looking for a lawyer to go after the guy that hit my car in the HEB parking lot then I'd be looking for someone like your first shot  Grin
Logged


Moderator
Quote
Why do you go through so much trouble?

Because I want to get better.

Thanks for everyone's response.  I will lighten the background before I print it.  I am glad a friend of mine explained narcissism to me the other day, otherwise I'd have no idea what you were talking about.  Have you ever heard the song that says: "Lord, it's hard to be humble!" ?  There is a line in it that goes something like "Some people call me egotistical; heck, I don't even know what that means...."

Anyway, maybe you know the song Smiley

Actually, it is very hard taking pictures of myself, but I needed the shots for an opportunity that has come my way and I can certainly use it with the rest of my business, so what the hay?  And I was able to try some new things without the risk of an upset client.

Again, thanks for everyone's help on this photo.  I learned a lot.

Stewart?  Is the tie any better?  Smiley

Travis
Logged


Hiya Travis,

Yep you nailed the tie this time mate  Clapping

When you want to bring yourself away from the background I find a snooted light on your leading shoulder helps to do this.

Cheers and Beers

Stew
Logged


Moderator
Well, I actually used a homemade snoot to light the background on the left of the image, but I turned down the power on it because I was afraid it was going to be too bright.  I should have left it alone.  Oh well, tack it up as a learning experience, that's why I posted it here.  Thanks again for all your comments and advice.

Travis
Logged


Top of Page