Senior Boy With Guitar

Nuttin fancy, just a senior boy and his beloved guitar.

Ben
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Not bad, too Wallmart/studio for my liking.
The guy is dressed as a rocker, so should the lighting and background be complimentary to his style. Gels.

If we are going with studio esthetics, then, the guitar is not properly held, nor should the shaft be away from the camera, wrong background, should be solid, maybe the grey and be lit up to separate your subject. Possibly a low Key Lighting could be more effective.

A nice shot, though.
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Deleted because I was under the impression this was a place to post photos for others to give opinions on.

Sorry, I'll keep my comments to myself.


[shrug]
« Last Edit: August 29, 2007, 09:26:02 AM by BobEdens »
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"I get up every morning determined to both change the world and have one heck of a good time. Sometimes this makes planning my day difficult. "- EB White

Chattanooga Photographer www.BobEdens.com

The background is nice, however, because of the colors in the background, our eyes are distracted from the subject to see what the background is like.

Subject could be 5 feet from the background which would blur it and have a possible neat effect.
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"Nobody holds a guitar that way" Oh really?  One usually hugs what one loves. He loves his guitar.
"Wrong background, should be solid, maybe grey."  Uh yeah sure, a solid grey background would really look a lot more contemporary than this one does, provided you are 95 years old. He actually loved this background, but I realize it is not for everyone.
"Subject could be 5 feet from the background which would blur it and have a possible neat effect." Uh he was posed about six feet in front of it.

Are there two Critique forums here?  Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought this forum was for photo sharing, not for critique?

Ben 
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I did mentioned gels, so, that would be for a white background, sorry about that.
No, I still don't like the way he is holding the guitar and how the shaft is placed away from the camera.

What's the exif, F11 F8 I would use an ap to blur the background and yes, I still think it would look neat.
The background is DISTRACTING the viewer from your subject.

Yes, this site is stiff, take it as a grain of salt, just mere opinions, honesty, and maybe some constructive suggestions.

Cheers

O.k. if a photo sharing reaction is wanted, well, it's a pretty picture.
« Last Edit: August 28, 2007, 06:45:38 PM by Mike Hodgson »
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I quite like the image.  I like the background.  I think it is completely appropriate for the age of your subject.  As for how he is holding the guitar - it depends on what you are trying to portray.  Obviously his guitar is something he loves.

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Are there two Critique forums here?  Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought this forum was for photo sharing, not for critique?

If you don't want critique on your images I would specify that, otherwise everyone will assume you are posting here to hear opinions and hopefully learn something.  I believe everyone's opinions and comments are made in the spirit of being helpful.  You don't have to agree with them, of course.
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Hey, Ben.  I for one am really happy to see you posting on here again.  Please keep sharing your wonderful work with us.  There is a lot you could teach all the members here about posing, lighting, business, studio work, etc., etc.  I don't know how long you have been doing photography, but it is obvious to me that you are very meticulous in your work.  You are detail oriented and I don't get the feeling you miss very many glaring details like a background that should be blurry.  The background here is sharp because you wanted it sharp; I think it works well.  Blurry would have lost all the texture and detail that is an integral part of your photographic vision in this image.  If I had a nitpick, it would be the neck of the guitar appearing to grow out of the back of his head.  If you didn't want a critique, consider that a debate for the rest of the forum members that stemmed from your image Smiley!  Honestly, you produce consistently wonderful work!  I only wish you would share more of it with us; maybe with some of your own tips and tricks for us to learn by.

As for critique, I do believe that every board here is open for comments and critiques.  The forum marked specifically for critique is for those of us (and you, if you want) that would like to have comments made only by the members of the board that are deemed as the most capable to teach and mentor.  Basically, you know that what you are getting is coming from the most professional and experienced member(s) of the site.  All other areas are open for everyone, so you are likely to get completely irrelevant comments from inexperienced and incapable individuals like myself; these critiques would be more open to your own thoughts and feelings as to what makes your image good or bad (but you could, of course, disagree with the "Pro's" on the other 'critique' forum as well).  Are you accustomed to other forums where there are sections that no one is allowed to critique or provide their own opinions?  I, for one, stay away from places where all you get is lame comments that do nothing for anyone.  I agree with Susie on this one, if you don't want it critiqued, please let us know up front and I'm sure no one will; and you can always disagree or ignore comments that you don't feel are appropriate or in line with your vision.  One suggestion, would you mind sharing with us what your thoughts and feelings are on the image; what do you like/dislike about it yourself?  What were you trying to show us?  Why did you show it to us?  Why did you show it how you did?  Give us some insights, educate us.  I don't mean this to sound demeaning at all, I would truly like to know.  Sometimes, in art galleries and exhibits, the only way to truly understand the artist's work, you need to hear it from the source.  Even poetry and literature can't be given it's true meaning without the writer's own voice and inflections.

Thanks for sharing,

Travis
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Travis,

Thank you for your insightful response. I was beginning to think this forum was like DPReview where nearly everyone found fault with anything (and everything) that is posted.

(Cut and paste) "...would you mind sharing with us what your thoughts and feelings are on the image; what do you like/dislike about it yourself?  What were you trying to show us?  Why did you show it to us?  Why did you show it how you did?  Give us some insights, educate us.  I don't mean this to sound demeaning at all, I would truly like to know."

Well this young man showed up with two guitars, and said he wanted several shots with each of them. He wanted something a little on the non-contemporary side with the electric one and something "mom will like" with the accoustical one.  When I saw the colors of the electric guitar I immediately thought of this background. I bought this background in May of this year and absolutely every person I have used it on has commented on how beautiful, colorful and "modern" it looks.  About 99% of them still loved it even after they saw it behind their child!  Very few photographers here on the 'net like it. I have posted about six or eight images on various websites with this background behind the subject and I usually get the "really ugly" "too busy" too colorful" "too bright" too much" comments from my fellow photographers. Why?  I really don't know!  If it is as bad as my fellow photographers say it is, why do my customers like it (and buy images with it behind their child?)  Tim Schooler has this identical background in some of his images, it would be interesting to see how many photographers hate it when he uses it!

As far as dislikes, yes I don't like the neck of the guitar sticking out of his head, and I considered removing it, but when I did it looked even stranger than it does now as everyone knows the neck of the guitar is rather long and it should be there.  I also did several other poses with him holding the guitar flat with the neck sticking straight toward the camera, but I liked this one the most of all of them.

Why did I show it?  I guess I was hoping to inspire, but apparantly my work here mostly inspires critical comments, four negative to two positive.  However I have thick skin and the naysayers will not deter me from posting.

Thanks.

Ben
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oooh I like that one, although I will admit I usually don't care for colored eyes on a black and white image, it seems to look a little startling.  The design on that background in black and white is amazing.  Also I wouldn't have worried about the neck of the guitar coming out of his head in the first picture... that's one of those things that is a "rule" but I it looks just fine how it is.  Where else is the guitar supposed to go?

I know you know this - but do what sells.  My customers come to me because they don't want traditional studio bridals.  There is nothing wrong with traditional, I like it, it's just not exactly what I do (although I wouldn't say I am trendy either).  There is part of me that wants to impress other photographers because then I know I am doing things well.  I think it is extremely important to be great at lighting and posing.  It doesn't matter if an image is classic/traditional or funky/trendy/edgy the rules of lighting and posing still apply.

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I was beginning to think this forum was like DPReview where nearly everyone found fault with anything (and everything) that is posted.
I think people pick out the faults here and tell you about them so you can correct them in the future (if they are valid faults).  I would MUCH rather hear what I did wrong so I can fix it later and learn something than to hear "nice image thanks for sharing" - that doesn't help me in the slightest.
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Gin,

You and I think a lot alike (that's scary!)  Cheesy

Ben
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I agree, I don't like traditional Portraiture.
Having said that, studying on a subject matter may help with ideas as to what approach to take, in this matter, A young adult and the love of music and or Instruments.
Already, a colorized B/W, and the way he is holding his axe, "The held axe" you'll see in rock magazines.
Edgy, crisp.
Well, it's only an opinion, but, I like it. Mind the pun, "This rocks"

I know you don't know me, "Who is this guy that rarely posts his work, is he pro" that's up to you to decide and judge. Fact is, I've done work and I don't have to post everything I do.

Anyhow, all is said in a friendly way. Keep your shirt on eh?  Wink

Gin, just remember the word, OPINION, you don't have to make sly remarks. O, BTW, you sure can break the rules in lighting.
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you don't have to make sly remarks.
 
who me?  Smiley (we need a winking smiley, do we have one?)

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O, BTW, you sure can break the rules in lighting.

Are you breaking them or just making new ones?  If it works I say you are making new ones, doesn't that sound so much more positive?  If I break the rules it's usually because I was lazy or not paying attention and I turn out with a poor image...   

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Thanks, Ben.  I like the color in the first one, and the composition better in the second.  Thanks for sharing.

Travis

BTW, what sly remarks?  Am I missing something?
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BTW, what sly remarks?  Am I missing something?

Who knows?  I wasn't going to deny it, just in case.
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