Senior Citizen Photo

I want to specialize in Special Needs Photography and Senior Citizens Photography both which each have their own challenges. This is a friend of mine who allowed me to use him for some practice shots. All comments greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance!

Catherine Gardner
www.catherinegardner.ca
www.pbase.com/catherinegardner

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It is a pretty good portrait.
I cannot judge the colour on my non calibrated monitor, but it seems a little reddish to me. The background could use a little light to separate him from the background.
It has been lit evenly, which perfectly fits elderly people.

Leen
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Leon thank you for your comments on the other one.  I myself was not sure if it was my monitor or not but also thought it to have too much red on the face.

Here is the same photo with a couple of edits from your suggestion

#1 Saturation level "Red" -14

#2 New layer for Selective Color "Black" where I lightened the black for the background which provided me with a bit of separation.  Because this guy has very light hair it was not that much of a challenge to accomplish this. (whew)

#3 New levels layer made after selecting his shirt and jacket.  Slight adjustment made to lighten this area to provide more detail.

Again all comments more than welcome!

Catherine Gardner
www.catherinegardner.ca
www.pbase.com/catherinegardner
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I really didn't notice the first one was red until you posted the second version.  Although the second now doesn't seem red enough, although that may just be because I saw the red version first.

Personally I would have left the background black.  The lightening of his shirt worked very well though.  I think what Leen was suggesting is to use a background like to give him a slight rim of light to separate from the background. 

You did a great job not having a reflection on his glasses.  And I think that it's a great thing you want to specialize - both are groups that typically don't have portraits taken and I'm sure that if I was in either group I would like someone who specializes in that type of subject. 

I'm also impressed that with as much as it sounds like you did in Photoshop, it's not noticeable.  Had the first image not been there, I wouldn't have any idea what you did to the second.
« Last Edit: June 09, 2007, 08:52:44 AM by Ryan Nutt »
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The image is way too red.  The is not sufficient light in the eyes to maintain sparkle and shadow detail and the lack of catch lights worsen the problem. 

I fined the lighting too flat and does not bring out quite enough texture and character.

Ed Shapiro
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Oh Ed, For heaven's sake.... I am going to end up blinding my clients just to get enough light in their eyes to satisfy you.
(You do know I am joking right?)
I personally like the first version better than the second one.  Although I would tone down the red just a touch.
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That is interesting.

Ed Shapiro wants more contrast in the image, I can somehow agree with him, but on the other hand, I prefer a rather flat lighting to suppress the showing of lines in the faces of elderly people.
Just a matter of taste, I suppose, but an interesting one.
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I agree its a little red, even though every photo I've posted has been too blue. [shrug]

turn the red WAY up, then desaturate it.

I like the light. Directional light would cause shadows that, to me, would draw un-due attention to his wrinkles.

The two shiney spots down by his collar, I don't know what they are but the bug the crap out of me.
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"I get up every morning determined to both change the world and have one heck of a good time. Sometimes this makes planning my day difficult. "- EB White

Chattanooga Photographer www.BobEdens.com

Thank you everyone for your comments and suggestions.  This one started off more as a low key but unfortunately even the guy who is in the photo was not happy with it.  He informed me that I should have cropped more to the centre, lightened it way up, told me that he has four new teeth in the front that he wanted greyed to match the older ones and wanted at least 10 yrs taken off his appearance! :-(

Catherine Gardner
www.pbase.com/catherinegardner
www.catherinegardner.ca
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Catherine - don't you love clients like that?  Although I also hate when they don't know what they want either...

Bob - the shiny spots look like the ends of the zipper on his shirt.  I would clone them out if it were me, but I am nit-picky like that.
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Catherine,

Time for a Stew "Mantra" repeat after me I will get your best side, I will get your best side, I will get your best side now ask him to turn and face the back drop  Grin

Ok So he must be a photographer to say he wants the crop, teeth nose hair oh hell he should have taken it himself lol. Right let me say you have a good image but the client doesnt want you to show him, he wants you to show what he thinks he looks like, and unfortunatly you are always going to be up against the wall when they ask for that because unless you sit down with them before for weeks to find out what theydo, how they feel and what they really want you just cant do it. You have a captured him, what you need to do now is convince him that this is him. For me I would turn this black and white and really show him how he looks, that is a distingushed gentleman with lots of stories.

Cheers and Beers

Stew
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I bet you did it for free.

If you do things for free there isn't any perceived value to it. Ask money next time and you will see criticisme will disappear.
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I bet you did it for free.

Interesting...

Well, did you?

I did a family portrait just before Christmas with 4 families and the parents.  One of the families bought prints, none of the others did.  They were very nit-picky about everything.  Funny thing is; the family that bought prints was the only one that had paid towards the session fee and the travel time (they had me go 3 hours from my studio for a location shoot).  None of the others had anything to lose, and they acted like it...

Travis
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Very interesting.  I have discounted weddings before for family and close friends and I usually get a "thanks we liked the images".  However it's the clients that pay me premium prices that go on and on about how gorgeous the pictures are and how great we are to work with and how they will refer everyone to us, etc.
I hadn't thought about it correctly before.  I just thought that people that are willing to pay more money are just nicer... but Leen's theory about perceived value is so correct.
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Thank you all for your comments!

Unfortunately I made two major mistakes when I created this photo! One I did it for free (I was hoping at the time to use it for one of my class assignments) and second I did it for another Phtographer.  Thankfully not all of my clients as as fussy. :-)

I did a group shot a few weeks ago for a not-for profit (their Exec Board members) and so far the only one not happy with it was myself.  I even suggested a reshoot at my own expense!  They have even asked that I come back this week to do a group photo of their staff.

Again thank you all for your comments and suggestions!

Catherine Gardner
www.pbase.com/catherinegardner
www.catherinegardner.ca
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