Water Lilies

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Oh, I guess I wasn't clear. Smiley I didn't say you oversaturated color. Nature does it sometimes, ha ha.
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Comments and Harsh Critiques gladly accepted. My photos are ok to edit.

My photos and art: http://wildmaven.org

I have to make a comment, just to let everyone know, NO saturations was done in photoshop

Mike,

Just a question really, but:  Does that matter?  I believe that you shoot with a D200.  This camera would allow you to saturate colors in camera instead of in PhotoShop.  Is this really any different?  In my view, it is the final image that matters, not the capture.

Great images by the way!

Ed
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Ed Farmer
Mount Laurel, New Jersey

www.edfarmerphotography.com
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Not really, I guess.

Yep it does, I shoot Vivid outdoors.
I believe it is different,  I like the results from the camera, when saturating colors in photoshop, image does deteriorate, or it does have quality effect on the capture.

In great respect, I disagree, it's the capture that matters first.

Thanks for the compliments   Big Grin
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You know how I stand on the initial capture versus the final image.  So I won't go there, but I will agree with Mike on the vivid setting in the capture versus using the saturation slider in PS, there is a quality difference.  In PS you start getting a funky effect in the texture of the image if you up the saturation more than just a little.  I can't explain well what happens, but it's like the transition of the colors becomes less smooth. 
There are other ways to adjust the saturation that work better than the saturation slider though. 
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Well . . . that's fine, but if you are increasing saturation with that slider only then you are leaving yourself a little on the short side. 

Mike, I agree that it is the capture first.  But, the thing that really counts is the final image.  As my mother used to say, "Nobody want to hear about the labor pains, they just want to see the baby."

Of course, you need to start with the best capture, if only because it makes everything else down the road easier.  But, that doesn't mean that it is even possible to capture the scene as you see it or, more importantly, as you want others to see it.  This was really the large part of Ansel Adams' artistic teaching.  The Zone System was developed with the expectation that post-processing, in his case this was film processing, paper selection and processing, burning and dodging, toning and presentation, would be what turned his initial exposure into a work of art.

Ed
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Ed Farmer
Mount Laurel, New Jersey

www.edfarmerphotography.com
www.photoartsforum.com

Absolutely, the final product is what counts, BUT;

Ansel's work in the wet room, would be as though if he was still alive and working with digital process, is photoshop, manipulating an image after the fact. Today, it is vitally important that we capture a scene, subject etc. with precision, or, to the best possible so that less processing goes into the image. I do spot an image, that is, rid of distracting spots etc, I do some edge burning at times, I do clone here an there, when done so, it's not a "Realist" image, it's "ART"
I find that if I keep the D200 at Neutral for outdoor work, the colors are flat when viewing in the bridge or photoshop.
Therefore, I have found by setting to "Vivid" I do get what I see, SO LONG as I have my WHITE BALANCE correct. 

BTW it's not 18% grey, but I won't get into that now, though, it is 12% gray.   Big Grin
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