What About The Other 45% - Flash WebsitesLibrary Thread

One of my phpCrazySite clients contacted me yesterday to ask my opinion of Flash websites as she was considering the benefits of having large images and the slick graphics that a Flash website can provide  - - -  and I was also curious as to whether my opinion should change from the one I have maintained for many years now. Technology marches on and it appears that a majority of photographers peers are utilizing Flash websites, putting pressure on everyone to conform to that look.

Well it turns out that my opinion has not changed as to my logic to NOT use Flash websites - if the goal is to attract as many viewers and potential customers as possible. Here were my thoughts presented to my CrazySite client:
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While I too do really like the Flash look on many websites and the use of large images, I am in general not a fan of using Flash if the goal is to use a website to attract customers or make the experience as universal and easy as possible. For an artsy look, flash is great - for a website that is able to load as fast as possible, smaller images, no sound and html based webpages are generally the best. Regardless of whether Flash is used or html is used, large images are large images in file size and so will take much longer to load.

With Flash, the whole website is one movie (not separate pages), and large chunks must be loaded before you can view the website - that is the reason that all Flash websites have a period of time where an animated indicator displays where you need to wait for things to load before you see the website - that is the case with high speed internet so if someone has regular dial up, they will probably not wait the long period of time for a Flash website to open and in some cases may not be able to open it. This "one movie" concept also plays havock with a websites ability to be listed well in Search Engines. Then there is the fact that many current Flash websites require the latest Flash plugin be installed on the viewers computer - many potential viewers of your website do not upgrade their computer or its software (including browsers and plugins) regularly to the latest and so will not be able to view such websites, and even if prompted to download the latest plugin, may resist doing so.

Yes a large percentage of viewers will not have these problems (although I personally do not generally wait around for Flash sites to open even with high speed) - but it may be a huge number that you never know about that cannot access your website because of it being Flash based or because of poor web design using large graphics, music, etc. My thought is that many of the people who can access slow loading Flash based websites and the large files that are part of those websites - because of having the latest computers/software/upgrades along with high speed connections, are professionals, photographers and web designers - who are not always my target audience, and so when it comes down to brass tax I am less concerned about what their view is as far as their ability to load my website without problems or not.

A web search can provide many clues as to how design of a website should be approached. As an example, the current statistics for US broadband internet usage as of August 2008 are:

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U.S. Ranks 15th

It is an amazing concept to grasp that the country that invented the Internet, the United States, now ranks 15th in high-speed Internet penetration. Although there has been a great deal of debate about the reliability of the various data, it is clear that there is a great deal of room for improvement to be made for Internet connection speed in the U.S.

As high speed Internet connections become more available to the general public, web designers may be compelled to relax general recommendations for the load time of web pages. Considering that two reports indicate a range of 43% to 45% of U.S. homes have Internet connections other than high speed connections and that Internet download speeds vary widely, the load time of a web page remains a fundamental design consideration.

This quote is from this source - http://r-rwebdesign.com/blog/?tag=us-broadband-statistics

And here is another similar statistic showing that while high speed internet usage is increasing and suggests that it may be the connection method of up to 55% of internet users - - - any sensible person would have to wonder about the other 45% (not an insignificant number) and their ability to access their website - http://internetstatstoday.com/?p=255 

This was the GOOGLE search phrase I used to start my research - "statistics internet connection United States 2008".

Of course you shouldn't believe me, but should do your own research if there should be a concern as to how you present such a valuable customer attracting tool as your website. The above is just my personal viewpoint and I have nothing against ones who make the choice to use websites that only benefit from the latest in technology. To those who's main motivation for putting effort and cost into having a business website is to attract new clients, this may thread be a starting point to looking into the most effective way to design and present it to the masses. Hope it is of some benefit!

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I use flash in my web site, all really fast stuff, frills that I bought. I'm about to remove the slide show but haven't decided if I should add it as a link. (people like it)  My reasons for changing the site is Search Engine Optimization more than anything because my menus are javascript. Its really cool to only make a change in one place and see it on every page but the bots don't see them.

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"I get up every morning determined to both change the world and have one heck of a good time. Sometimes this makes planning my day difficult. "- EB White

Chattanooga Photographer www.BobEdens.com

I always design for every user. Not only do you need to consider the Flash aspect, but also what browser they're using, and the screen resolution. If you do use flash, provide a non-flash link on the first page, so that those without it can still access your images/site. Never design a page so that those with 800x600 resolution have to scroll sideways to see it. Provide thumbnails or lower resolution images that the users then click on to see the higher resolution images, which reduces initial download times. Only use text fonts that are cross-browser compatible. View your site from multiple browsers (Google Chrome anyone?) and see if there are any issues.

The way I look at it is, that one person who can't view your site, may be the person with the biggest wallet.
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Comments and Harsh Critiques gladly accepted. My photos are ok to edit.

My photos and art: http://wildmaven.org

Do you think that this will have any affect on flash usage: http://www.abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=5689480&page=1

Are users going to watch what where they browse and conserve their bandwidth?

Ed
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Ed Farmer
Mount Laurel, New Jersey

www.edfarmerphotography.com
www.photoartsforum.com

I could care less about fancy effects and look... I prefer minimalistic looking pages were everything is ordered hierarchically and were its expected to be...
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Interesting article Ed.

Robert, thanks so much for posting your views and thoughts here.  I have honestly been in the process of redesigning my website with a new business approach in mind (my old one obviously isn't working).  Anyway, I continually look around at the photographers in my area doing really well, and the ones like me that are getting by... sort of.  The thing is; and I mean no disrespect to anyone, is that [almost all] the successful photographers in my area seem to have one of twotypes of websites (loosely categorized by yours truly):

-Flash with all the bells and whistles including royalty-free music and 'cool' backgrounds.
-Busy, information-filled html sites or blogs that are constantly updated and added to.

I'm only noting this because, well, they are making a lot more money than I am and attracting a lot more clientele to their websites by doing things that I continue to try and stay away from.  I'm no internet guru, and I no I haven't even scratched the surface of the potential web marketing that I see done.  But at least in some ways, I have to admit, it sure seems to be working for them.  Maybe it's not a bad idea to change my ways, at least for me and my business.  And, maybe it won't even make any difference because it's something else I'm doing wrong and the type of website I have will not make much difference on how many phone calls, emails, or even site visits I get.

Just some thoughts, based not on any type of scientific research or intense study, but only a little observation.  Feel free to offer your thoughts in return.  I'm interested in your opinions because, on the other hand, I know very few photographers as successful as you with internet marketing.

Travis
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It's interesting Travis, I have come to the same conclusion about websites.  Flash or extremely text heavy and updated.  I learned that my idea of a good website isn't compatable with SEO.  I like clean front pages with not a lot of text and then links to the info you are looking for.  I have tried adding text to my front page, although I don't like the look I get more hits.
Anyway, I would say a very small percentage of my business comes from people doing a search on a random search engine, my weddings are word of mouth, my boudoir stuff is from a free classified ad (tacky, but SO effective) and also word of mouth on bridal forums which I hope isn't temporary, it's effective too, but completely out of my control.
I've just come to the conclusion I have to design my website to look nice and then then get people to visit it with good old fashioned marketing. 
I am not an internet guru like Robert but I am trying to become more educated.  I am also not gifted at marketing, which is more important than good photography skills I have decided.
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Susie,

Which "free classified" site are you advertising on?

Ed
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Ed Farmer
Mount Laurel, New Jersey

www.edfarmerphotography.com
www.photoartsforum.com

Susie,

Which "free classified" site are you advertising on?

Ed

It's local, it's called ksl.com
The trick is that I put in a military discount for wives of men in active duty.  I found out a lot of girls search for "military discount" just to see what's out there and they find my ad and say "hey I should do that".  It's great.

I know of craigslist too, but the format is weird, I've never done anything with it.

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Yeah . . . I see quite a few photographers here advertising on craigslist.  I don't know what kind of clientel they are getting . . . the site is really designed for those looking for bargins.  Not the client's that really want to have calling me every day . . .

Ed
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Ed Farmer
Mount Laurel, New Jersey

www.edfarmerphotography.com
www.photoartsforum.com

Yeah, I got that impression from craigslist too.  I was skeptical about using the one I am, but I have only received really good calls from it.  I have my website address listed and they can visit that and get information before calling me so I don't get calls from people that don't know the actual cost of my product.   
I know there are pros and cons for having your pricing online.  I choose to do it and it works well for me.  When people call me they are ready to buy every time.  I don't have to play salesman in a bad way. 
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I have never had prices on my website.  But, if/when I redesign my site, I expect that I will put up something.  Maybe not my full price.  Maybe something simplified.  I have also been thinking about simplifying my price list anyway.  But, that is an issue for another thread . . .

Ed
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Ed Farmer
Mount Laurel, New Jersey

www.edfarmerphotography.com
www.photoartsforum.com